Comments on: Brothers in Arms: Hell’s Highway causes Hell on the Marketplace

By: Curry

Curry — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:04:00 +0000

And Kotaku doesn’t aim to cover all important news, whereas we do

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:59:22 +0000

The video is broken and makes the game look bad. That is news, as I am sure people would like to know that the video has problems. Also, there were two seperate videos there proving the broken video.

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:54:24 +0000

yay. You make me happy.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:30:27 +0000

The framerate issue is not the VIDEO it’s a bug, with certain high bitrate videos there appears to be a bug in the dashboard that causes the framerate issue, some say starting a game and then immediately dumping back out of it and then playing the video smoothed out the problem, i’m sure the 360 team knows of the problem and is working on resolving it.

But either way the video on my 360 plays smooth, the copy i had on my pc makes it really look like a slideshow… then again so does all 720p video on my computer lol

By: Jmel

Jmel — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:15:53 +0000

I think if half of the commenters there at the end had had the same “unrelenting attention to detail” they’d have seen that the news story was about how a company releases a video with a choppy framerate. A VIDEO WITH BAD FRAMERATE, and that may make people think that the GAME MIGHT SUFFER.

Geez. Some of you guys read the first few lines of a story, and go into anger mode and just gloss over the rest of it.

sigh.

By: InsaneBastard

InsaneBastard — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:09:04 +0000

eh…this is a blog blog = news + personal opinions.

If you want a strict news site, go to cnn.com You won’t find a blog with news that don’t have personal opinions. And frankly, that’s how many of us like it. I wouldn’t recommend you read Kotaku.com then. It has even more “opinion” than this site.

By: acromyth

acromyth — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:11:47 +0000

Gearbox is an awesome developer with unrelenting attention to detail. I doubt they will realese their biggest and most ambitious project to date with a shitty frame rate. Worry not, for I highly doubt they would do that. They have quite a bit of time, as people have said previously, to optimize the game.

By: Rival24

Rival24 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:27:51 +0000

I don’t really care what the problem was, the framerate sucked and they should’ve looked at it before releasing it.

By: lynX

lynX — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:00:58 +0000

“If Ubisoft and Microsoft cannot make the video work, how the heck can we trust the content of the final game?”

now that’s just utter BS… What the hell does a glitchy video on marketplace have to do with the content of the final game? There’s a lot more movies on marketplace (like the latest red vs. blue movies) that were glitchy on my 360 too, so I don’t think it’s a ubisoft problem, but more of a Microsoft problem.

You guys here at xboxic should try and bring us some real news, since I’m starting to get annoyed by all the personal opinions and visions posted as ‘news’ while their’s only rumour or one glitchy video to support your stories. Come on guys, you used bring us the facts, now it’s stories and myths and personal agitation that we have to read about all the time.

By: Norman Bates

Norman Bates — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:08:00 +0000

man this game looks sweet , yes of course there was some issues with the framerate , but the game is six months away..

but i honestly don’t understand why they (MS) realese a 800mb trailer of a game thats six months away ..
an achivement patch for graw would be better though

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:41:19 +0000

It’s just a shame people are having problems. Other videos don’t seem to be broken like this. I liked what I saw when I paused it though.

By: Cage

Cage — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:28:05 +0000

But they did bring it like the vids you saw on your pc. To me atleast My BiA video I got from marketplace looks great, just like the one I posted above. With one big difference.. 720P on my sony Bravia
You can see my reaction on the forum. It made the top of my ‘i want that’ list.

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:22:54 +0000

Thanks Cage, sorry the article didnt make it clear we were annoyed about the sloppy vid, not the game. TBH, the vids I have seen of it on my pc looked great, I was annoyed they didnt bring that over to the 360.

By: Cage

Cage — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:18:27 +0000

I must appoligize.. I read the article while I was in a pissed mood and misread it. After reading it again I see what you mean.

For those people who suffered from the bad video; go check the forums at http://forum.xboxic.com/s...?p=14682&postcount=14 where you will see the video as I saw it on my 360. There you’ll see that the original video did not have that choppy framerate and the ingame framerate isn’t that bad for a game early in developpement. Oblivion was released with such framerate and I’m sure ubisoft is not going to make the same mistake..

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:13:17 +0000

Again, it’s not about the game it’s the video we are talking about. Nobody knows what the final game will be like yet. Ubisoft are responsible for any content with their name on it.

By: Slitherz

Slitherz — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:11:42 +0000

Its pre-alpha and non optimized code. games are broken until beta and even then, they are not complete. bullshit story for an awesome game series.

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:08:09 +0000

People need to know if there is a fault with a download, and many people have had problems with this. The article does seem to be dumping on the game a bit, but its the quality of the video and the fact people are having problems with it that concerns us.

By: Cage

Cage — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:03:14 +0000

In the article you’re blaming MS and ubisoft for a poor video and complain about how much trust you can still have in ubisoft after seeing it. My point was that the video was smooth for me. No choppy audio and stuff, so the video was just fine. No blame to ubisoft.
Unfortunately for some users the video played choppy. That’s some kind of problem with that 360 or MS screwed up the distribution of the video. So why blame ubisoft?
On the forum is a link to that same video without the choppy sound and bad video. There you see some framerate problems on the ingame engine which can easily be resolved in a couple of months of tweacking.

By: Cage

Cage — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:52:38 +0000

Then I guess you saw a different one then me. Unless you’re talking about the video problem which I didn’t have.
BTW as far as I know this was also E3 footage so ingame footage of a game that’s a year away from release at that time. You were at GC and saw how fast a game can go from slideshow to smooth (viva pinata) so imagine what they can do in a year of tweacking and pollishing

By: Zerodisorder

Zerodisorder — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:47:10 +0000

But its liek you jsut said Praetorian, its complaining…not news :S

By: Sean

Sean — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:32:17 +0000

To my knowledge, this build is the same as the E3 demo (its the exact same location, and dialogue anyway)… so quit whinging.

By: Praetorian

Praetorian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:32:08 +0000

I hope the game is good, but that video stinks. We are complaining about the video, not the game.

Still, let’s hope the game itself is a great addition to the solid Brothers in Arms series.

By: InsaneBastard

InsaneBastard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:30:59 +0000

People seem to still mix up the framerate of the game and the video. We’re primarily talking about the video here, not the game We all know why the game plays choppy, it’s the audio skipping we’re talking about.

By: InsaneBastard

InsaneBastard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:29:43 +0000

About the DOAX2 issue:
http://www.majornelson.co...ad-od-Alive-Xtreme-2.aspx
“The E3 one didn’t play very smoothly after the spring dashboard update, so this one is the fixed version. It runs smoothly now.”

Red vs blue
http://www.majornelson.co...5/Red-vs.-Blue-Video.aspx

Some people (including me) complains about that video skipping as well.

By: Rival24

Rival24 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:24:45 +0000

Minor framedrops? The framerate sucked horsecock! I don’t understand why they’re releasing this piece of crap video.

By: Zerodisorder

Zerodisorder — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:24:31 +0000

Yea, I must say it does seem like bashing on a game that has alot of time to work out the kinks. This doesn’t even really seem like news. We had all talked about this is in the forum.

By: InsaneBastard

InsaneBastard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:22:58 +0000

The framerate of the build is one thing, along with some other graphical glitches we all know will be fixed when it releases in 2007, the framerate of the video is another

By: InsaneBastard

InsaneBastard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:21:12 +0000

This is the same issue which once plagued the DOAX2 trailer, which was pulled and then rereleased.

It’s also the same issue which has been affecting the Red vs Blue trailers:
Red vs Blue´Out of Mind part one
http://video.google.com/v...314466566101208&hl=en

Red vs Blue Out of Mind part two
http://video.google.com/v...155677231889052&hl=en

People commented on those as well, and there were quite a lot of comments.

I think you cage may be overreacting a bit I think it’s important to note that we don’t know what causes this as of yet. All this occurred after the spring update. While the DVD functionality was fixed, this kind of malfunction appeared instead.

Is it a bad codec in the trailers? Or is it because of faulty machines?

There have been comments on this issue from time to time, and I think it would be interesting to really get down to what the issue really is.

By: McGrude

McGrude — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:32:34 +0000

Damn Oblivion has frame rate issues!

Sorry Cage, I had to.

By: Cage

Cage — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:29:12 +0000

Big BS story over nothing! The video worked perfect on my 360 so the video is just fine. If MS is having some playback issues with the video, you can’t blame the developer for it. That’s a problem with the video playback on the 360 and not with the game in development.

There were indeed some minor framedrops in the footage but it’s far from being a slideshow as the article implies in a way. They have months of tweacking to go so they will fix this, even if it means they have to cut some of the candy.

Remember viva pinata at GC? A slideshow ..and human nature of complaining started to rise instantly, but it was just a minor issue which was resolved several hours later.

Come on xboxic, this bashing for nothing is not like you and does not fit the site. The framdrops where not nearly as bad as the ones in Oblivion and no one is complaining about those..

By: VerbalKint27

VerbalKint27 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:14:35 +0000

Me too, but the framerate of the build they were playing was shite.

By: coojo

coojo — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:11:51 +0000

worked fine to me

By: aft

aft — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:05:40 +0000

I like the Call of Duty series better

By: Carabus

Carabus — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:00:53 +0000

The skipping sure is an issue

By: TRIGGER M4N

TRIGGER M4N — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:00:01 +0000

In all honesty, I don’t care for the slight hitches here and there.

By: Petecrizzie

Petecrizzie — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:55:51 +0000

I knew it was the video cuz i heard his voice skipping a few times but overall the game looks sick i cant wait.

By: VerbalKint27

VerbalKint27 — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:54:49 +0000

I bought the gamer-pics. Frame rate aside this game is looking nice.