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	<title>Comments on: Second gen Xbox 360&#8217;s to include a built in HD-DVD drive?</title>
	<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The_Glovner</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32396</link>
		<author>The_Glovner</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32396</guid>
		<description>And all that applies only if there is even any truth in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all that applies only if there is even any truth in this.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Glovner</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32394</link>
		<author>The_Glovner</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32394</guid>
		<description>Oh god here we go again.

What age are you? 

Did you buy your own 360? If you did then you enacted a form of choice, you chose to buy the 360 at the birth of the consoles lifespan.

So by exercising your choice you got the newest thing on the market &lt;b&gt;at the time&lt;/b&gt;.

So things change as time goes on, should I get pissed at Samsung and Comet for buying the new 46 inch HD-LCD the day it came on the market in the UK only to find the price has dropped by £450 in 6 months, no because I exercised my right to choice and I had it long before other people started buying it.

MS do not have to offer any exchange but judging by the customer service they give (It's an American company and say what you like about the yanks but they know how to provide damn good customer service) on the 360 and what they have given in the past I would not be surprised if they gave the early adopters some sort of sweetner to get them onboard with this change, after all if everyone gets set up with HD and a Hard Drive it makes the differences between the two machines (PS3 &#38; 360) a lot less and so with the headstart MS have it would make it a lot eaiser to win this round against Sony.

So to sum up, stop being a whiney little bitch.

(And before the PS3 gang start up, you cannot compare Sony to any of this because they have little or no knowledge whatsoever of the concept of customer service.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god here we go again.</p>
<p>What age are you? </p>
<p>Did you buy your own 360? If you did then you enacted a form of choice, you chose to buy the 360 at the birth of the consoles lifespan.</p>
<p>So by exercising your choice you got the newest thing on the market <b>at the time</b>.</p>
<p>So things change as time goes on, should I get pissed at Samsung and Comet for buying the new 46 inch HD-LCD the day it came on the market in the UK only to find the price has dropped by £450 in 6 months, no because I exercised my right to choice and I had it long before other people started buying it.</p>
<p>MS do not have to offer any exchange but judging by the customer service they give (It&#8217;s an American company and say what you like about the yanks but they know how to provide damn good customer service) on the 360 and what they have given in the past I would not be surprised if they gave the early adopters some sort of sweetner to get them onboard with this change, after all if everyone gets set up with HD and a Hard Drive it makes the differences between the two machines (PS3 &amp; 360) a lot less and so with the headstart MS have it would make it a lot eaiser to win this round against Sony.</p>
<p>So to sum up, stop being a whiney little bitch.</p>
<p>(And before the PS3 gang start up, you cannot compare Sony to any of this because they have little or no knowledge whatsoever of the concept of customer service.)</p>
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		<title>By: steven ratty</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32366</link>
		<author>steven ratty</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32366</guid>
		<description>instead of trading your 360 in them paying 100 to 150 for a new 1, just buy the hd dvd add on. if you dont want hd dvd dont. simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>instead of trading your 360 in them paying 100 to 150 for a new 1, just buy the hd dvd add on. if you dont want hd dvd dont. simple.</p>
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		<title>By: AvanCade</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32325</link>
		<author>AvanCade</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32325</guid>
		<description>we have been fucked by Microsoft. They there wouldnt be games that NEED a hard drive. They did otherwise. They said they wouldnt make a HD-DVD player inside the XBOX360, they most likely will do otherwise.
They said no games would be released on HD-DVD. The future will proof otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have been fucked by Microsoft. They there wouldnt be games that NEED a hard drive. They did otherwise. They said they wouldnt make a HD-DVD player inside the XBOX360, they most likely will do otherwise.<br />
They said no games would be released on HD-DVD. The future will proof otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: J1980</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32244</link>
		<author>J1980</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32244</guid>
		<description>Pictures, music, video's, live tv using windows media centre amongst other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pictures, music, video&#8217;s, live tv using windows media centre amongst other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Halcyon</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32242</link>
		<author>Halcyon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32242</guid>
		<description>Whoa, HD-DVD burning drive on a 360? What on earth could you POSSIBLY burn to a HD-DVD from a 360?! O_o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, HD-DVD burning drive on a 360? What on earth could you POSSIBLY burn to a HD-DVD from a 360?! O_o</p>
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		<title>By: Nocona</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32192</link>
		<author>Nocona</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32192</guid>
		<description>Man there aint no way a 250gig HDD is gonna cost 1250 bucks.

You shoulda just kept that thought to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man there aint no way a 250gig HDD is gonna cost 1250 bucks.</p>
<p>You shoulda just kept that thought to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: joff</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32171</link>
		<author>joff</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32171</guid>
		<description>surely they are laws to provent this type of thing (im pretty sure they are) as if it was possible to make a major change like this to the final specs then sony would have dont with the ps2 and the underpowered emotion engine cpu that was present from start to end of life. even if it was legally allowed then the change cant interfere with the primary function of the console (play games) so i think if you have a current xbox 360 then we will still be ok as games have to play on all the xbox 360 revisions not just the flava of the month version</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely they are laws to provent this type of thing (im pretty sure they are) as if it was possible to make a major change like this to the final specs then sony would have dont with the ps2 and the underpowered emotion engine cpu that was present from start to end of life. even if it was legally allowed then the change cant interfere with the primary function of the console (play games) so i think if you have a current xbox 360 then we will still be ok as games have to play on all the xbox 360 revisions not just the flava of the month version</p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32149</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32149</guid>
		<description>Yeah but it hasn't had such a reliable source; being leaked from the Taiwan company that is making it is a primary source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but it hasn&#8217;t had such a reliable source; being leaked from the Taiwan company that is making it is a primary source.</p>
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		<title>By: J1980</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32147</link>
		<author>J1980</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32147</guid>
		<description>If I hear that these rumors are confirmed, I might just take my machine back to the shop in Dec and say it's overheated or disc drive isnt reading discs, to get a replacement that has another 12months warranty on it. THEN when the new machine appears, I'll take it back as broken again - afterall they're known for it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I hear that these rumors are confirmed, I might just take my machine back to the shop in Dec and say it&#8217;s overheated or disc drive isnt reading discs, to get a replacement that has another 12months warranty on it. THEN when the new machine appears, I&#8217;ll take it back as broken again - afterall they&#8217;re known for it!!</p>
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		<title>By: aces high</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32125</link>
		<author>aces high</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32125</guid>
		<description>'The external HD-DVD drive, however, can only play back movies, the sources noted.'

&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;:( BOOOOOOO!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The external HD-DVD drive, however, can only play back movies, the sources noted.&#8217;</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;:( BOOOOOOO!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kineticonline</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32110</link>
		<author>kineticonline</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32110</guid>
		<description>Well im not a rich chump thats for certain, i spent almost a full year saving everything i could so i could afford to buy the 360 on release, (well thats and a decent TV to play it on)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well im not a rich chump thats for certain, i spent almost a full year saving everything i could so i could afford to buy the 360 on release, (well thats and a decent TV to play it on)</p>
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		<title>By: InsaneBastard</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32108</link>
		<author>InsaneBastard</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32108</guid>
		<description>Again? Come on. This rumour has arisen, been debunked, arisen, debunked and now arisen...again?!

*sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again? Come on. This rumour has arisen, been debunked, arisen, debunked and now arisen&#8230;again?!</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: fazy</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32106</link>
		<author>fazy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32106</guid>
		<description>well as long as the trade in does not cost me anything more than 100 then i will be happy, b/c i am guesing that the new one will have no heat problems either (hopefully)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well as long as the trade in does not cost me anything more than 100 then i will be happy, b/c i am guesing that the new one will have no heat problems either (hopefully)</p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32104</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32104</guid>
		<description>I think (read:hope) MS are sensible enough to realise that the 360 hasn't been on the shelves for long, so they can't expect people not to get angry if they offer no trade in. The PS2 to PStwo is acceptable since that was four years over (or more). I mention the DS/DS Lite thing in the post, and I'll mention it again, because that worked well, and there were no outcries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (read:hope) MS are sensible enough to realise that the 360 hasn&#8217;t been on the shelves for long, so they can&#8217;t expect people not to get angry if they offer no trade in. The PS2 to PStwo is acceptable since that was four years over (or more). I mention the DS/DS Lite thing in the post, and I&#8217;ll mention it again, because that worked well, and there were no outcries.</p>
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		<title>By: Studley</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32099</link>
		<author>Studley</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32099</guid>
		<description>But they won't.

1st gen buyers = testers / rich chumps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>1st gen buyers = testers / rich chumps</p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32098</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32098</guid>
		<description>Oh, and I hope they fix the stupid 3 red lights syndrome, second time round they gotta get it right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I hope they fix the stupid 3 red lights syndrome, second time round they gotta get it right!</p>
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		<title>By: gill</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32097</link>
		<author>gill</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32097</guid>
		<description>this isnt fair, ms should let us send in our 360s, transfer our saves to the new hd and give us the hd-dvd xbox 360 at a cheaper rate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isnt fair, ms should let us send in our 360s, transfer our saves to the new hd and give us the hd-dvd xbox 360 at a cheaper rate</p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32096</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32096</guid>
		<description>Agreed, thats what I would hope for. £150 at the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, thats what I would hope for. £150 at the most.</p>
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		<title>By: kineticonline</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32095</link>
		<author>kineticonline</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32095</guid>
		<description>If they release the 360 with a built in HD-DVD they better offer me a trade in where i get the full purchase price discounted from the new one. i.e I paid £280 for the current premium 360, If the a HD-DVD version is released for £380 i'll only pay £100 for the upgrade to the new system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they release the 360 with a built in HD-DVD they better offer me a trade in where i get the full purchase price discounted from the new one. i.e I paid £280 for the current premium 360, If the a HD-DVD version is released for £380 i&#8217;ll only pay £100 for the upgrade to the new system</p>
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		<title>By: Rockaholica</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32090</link>
		<author>Rockaholica</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32090</guid>
		<description>plus they are going to a 65NM process hopefully they will pass the savings on :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus they are going to a 65NM process hopefully they will pass the savings on <img src='http://www.xboxic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32088</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32088</guid>
		<description>Yeah thats if they sell every component seperately. However if its included all-in-one, then it definately won't be as much as you get by adding it all up seperately, because that is no gain for anyone, since the whole point of a bundle (like buying in bulk) is to reduce the cost to consumers/buyers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah thats if they sell every component seperately. However if its included all-in-one, then it definately won&#8217;t be as much as you get by adding it all up seperately, because that is no gain for anyone, since the whole point of a bundle (like buying in bulk) is to reduce the cost to consumers/buyers</p>
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		<title>By: J1980</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32087</link>
		<author>J1980</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32087</guid>
		<description>I've spent so much money on my current xbox360 Im beginning to wish I aint bothered if a new super xbox360 is released!! There does need to be a trade in offer on this (hopefully) as the current machine in 2007 would be less than 18months old</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent so much money on my current xbox360 Im beginning to wish I aint bothered if a new super xbox360 is released!! There does need to be a trade in offer on this (hopefully) as the current machine in 2007 would be less than 18months old</p>
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		<title>By: Rockaholica</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32085</link>
		<author>Rockaholica</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32085</guid>
		<description>wow is they use the same pricing structure for the bigger HDD a 250gig will be $1250 USD LOLOLOL!!!! Fuck that shizzle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow is they use the same pricing structure for the bigger HDD a 250gig will be $1250 USD LOLOLOL!!!! Fuck that shizzle</p>
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		<title>By: TRIGGER M4N</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32083</link>
		<author>TRIGGER M4N</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32083</guid>
		<description>250 gigabyte hard drive? if a 20 gig costs £69, a 250 one will costs a lot more, and an internal disk drive, thats rumoured to be £199. It's going to be quite expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>250 gigabyte hard drive? if a 20 gig costs £69, a 250 one will costs a lot more, and an internal disk drive, thats rumoured to be £199. It&#8217;s going to be quite expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Rossko UK</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32082</link>
		<author>Rossko UK</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32082</guid>
		<description>YEah, there is no prices mentioned, but to keep the upper hand, surely they have to keep it lower than the top end PS3? I would think anyway, even if it means losing money on it (though they do that now anyway)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEah, there is no prices mentioned, but to keep the upper hand, surely they have to keep it lower than the top end PS3? I would think anyway, even if it means losing money on it (though they do that now anyway)</p>
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		<title>By: TRIGGER M4N</title>
		<link>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32079</link>
		<author>TRIGGER M4N</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.xboxic.com/news/1607#comment-32079</guid>
		<description>Oh no! PS3 VS 360 Pricing argument coming up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no! PS3 VS 360 Pricing argument coming up&#8230;</p>
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