Reason like anyone wants to know your opinion on thread that is half a year old. But probably doing it to try and get a rise out of people but look? it ain’t really worked, I only replied because I am a stubborn cunt and wanted to make you out to be the slavering spastic little fuck you quite clearly are.

Lets take a look at your points.

1. Oh well , if you said it it must be true, not like you need to back up your opinion with anything like maybe, sales figures, available titles (software), prices, hardware, online service, movement of exclusive titles to cross platform titles (almost all coming from PS to the Xbox, not the other way round). I could go on but clearly your opinion on this should be taken as gospel as you do seem so well educated on the subject.

2. Well mines was a launch console and ain’t overheated once, but hey again what could I possibly know compared to your massive insight into the facts and of course there has been no problems with the PS3, no dodgy batches of machines were issued. I could of sworn while playing my friends PS3 that on touching it my skin almost stuck to the plastic and would have left me with severe scarring if left for another moment, but hey thats only my personal experience.

3. Your friend had a 360 and it overheated three times you say, I have to disagree with this point, but only because I don’t believe you have any friends and your parents probably regret not drowning you at birth after beating you within an inch of your life.

4 If I want to surf the net, well i’ll do that on the laptop. A console is for playing games, movies, web browsing, playing music are all gimicks and don’t really sell a console to me, but hey guess I must be different to eveyone else. The PS3 is fast, well to determine what your definition of fast is we will need a comparison and fast at what folding protiens for the good of the scientific community? It’s sexy? well in the same way a poor woman tarted up in shiny black PVC is sexy, but ultimitly you wil realise she is dirty and you have been used. I would agree it is the sexiest model of the Lean Mean Grilling Machine I have seen, but just don’t like the other colour schemes they come in, they all look a bit cheap.

And finally to answer your last point.

Q The PS3 has much better graphics?

A GoW.

Thank you for sharing your input. Now do everyone concerned a favour and forget how to breath please.

an xbox360 AND a wedge of notes in my pocket will do me nicely…

Regarding system/graphical capabilities and AI:

“Speaking of taking advantage of the PS3’s power, the team has been using the computational power of the system to enhance a large number of the standard features that the game is known for. For instance, the cloth physics of jerseys and shorts has been assigned to one SPU on the PS3 instead of multiple cores on the 360 so that it can move more realistically than ever without taking away processing power for the rest of the game. But you’ll find that there’s just as much realism off the court in the PS3 version than on the court. Instead of running cutscenes during timeout situations, the development team has created real time AI that governs the cheerleaders, mascots, floor cleaners and even the crowd.”

PS3 is better at physics.

“Visually, the game has been taken up to a new level, particularly in how the game action is rendered. Not only have the in-game visuals been beefed up thanks to the power of the system, but according to Thomas, the way the PS3 renders pixels gives the game a richer appearance than the 360 version. It looks much more organic and lifelike, and if you thought you were watching a real game on the 360, just wait till you see it on the PS3.”

PS3 can *at least* compete on AI.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/737/737118p1.html

Hey, never know, maybe it’s all the extra things going on on screen in Resistance that makes it more crowded sometimes. Rather than just a few things moving on a 2d-ish background, like in Gears. 40 players vs. 8 players, BTW. 360 probably couldn’t draw 40 at once.

As far as the size of the discs, it’s all about compression and procedural generation (Oblivion). Yeah, it might take a little more time to write the code and all, but it also makes for less work on game art, object placement, etc… and the extra time they saved when making the game for the 360 can be used to write better code for these. Maybe it will even help keep out more bugs.

Can anybody answer that?

at least sony improvises!
50GB discs, real psp connectivity…etc
less is not more!
xbox people lie like hell, at the South African launch a kid asked a Microsoft exec which console is better the Microsoft exec replied, “We have more games!” wtf!!! all you xbox fanboys are full of bs,
no offence they just launched the xbox 360 in South Africa, and to be honest, regardless of the 360’s suppossed power many games don’t look that much better than a ps2, xbox lies too much, first they say you dont need blue ray then they make an hd-dvd add one, Microsoft say 1080p games are impractical and impossible yet they now support HDMI output and 1080p wtf? What if ihave a core xbox 360?
Kameo looks like dogcrap, Burnout, looks as good as a ps2, Oblivion looks better on a pc, Call of duty 2 is jaggy, Fear looks better on a pc.

The Xbox 360 power unit as big as a brick! no one told me how hot this stupid thing got!

bash the ps3 all you want, but you aint fooling me, the xbox 360 is all bs, smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors

Not only have developers had more time, and help thanks to tools such as XNA, but when it comes to gaming the 360 does have more horsepower. I know it is hard to believe but when you look up what expert programmers have to say that’s what you will find. The AMD GPU is more advanced in the 360 and the general processing power (needed for gaming, not multimedia processing) is 4-6x more powerful than the PS3’s. MS made an intelligent system with components that help show off each others strengths, unlike Sony who put together a bunch of powerful hardware that will never be realized.

Additionally, the 360’s open 512mb memory versus the alloted 256mb in the PS3 allows the possibility of 512mb of textures on the screen at once versus the maximum of 256mb of textures for the PS3. I know it doesn’t sound right and it goes against everything everyone has been told so far but do some research and you will find that it is true.
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not may people understand this most people just say oh but look how powerfull the cell chip is without understanding thet the 360’s cpu was made to work with its graphics properly

So I don’t really see this being that unbelieveable.

They are selling out in Japan and the US they only have say another 500,000 units to sell why start up the new marketing campaign in Europe when you can just ship them to the US and Japan and make sales off the back of the current marketing campaign. Really isn’t that far fetched and makes economic sense.

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I don’t trust anything they have to say about anything…

What is this?

“Along with that, the SPEs are asynchronous. This means they can’t all be working at the same time, and each SPE can only be used for one task”

Asynchronous does not mean that they cannot work at the same time. It means that they are not synchronized together.

There is a lot of bull spread around lately.

360 and ps3 will be very very close in performance for a long time, graphically they will always be approximativly the same (the power of both graphics cards is very close).

The difference will come with how they implement the code accross these machines.

the 360 has 3xCPUs that are tailor made for gaming, while the PS3 has 7xCPUs tailor made for physics.

Each has it’s strenghts and weaknesses, and only time will tell if one is really more powerfull than the other.

I suspect that we may see some games that have more power on one, and others more on the other.

Do we really need to debate this here? The amount of fudd generated in these discussions only shows how little each of us know about these machines.

The most important thing is taht they make GREAT games for BOTH platforms.

I don’t care that they sell 100million ps3 and xbox360, as long as they have great games on both!

Anyway - The PS3 Cell; it’s NOT optomised for gaming. It is a media processor. A processor Sony are looking at putting into servers, TVs, and DVD/Blu-Ray players. The reason it has more processing ‘power’ is because of the SPEs. HOWEVER! Due to the floating-point nature, it makes them quite redundant for gaming. 80%~ of the overall system power of the PS3 is Floating-Point… 15-30% of a standard game is floating point. So essentially it is wasting almost 50% of it.

Along with that, the SPEs are asynchronous. This means they can’t all be working at the same time, and each SPE can only be used for one task. Regardless of whether the task in hand only requires 15% of the SPE, the architecture prevents it from being doubled up with something else.

Now, on the other hand, the 360 processor has been custom designed by Microsoft with IBM, adding a lot of features to help gaming performance, such as increased efficiency for procedural synthesis.

Now - the 360 GPU… that is DEFINATELY the more powerful of the two, as well as the most efficient (due to the unified shader technology). The 360 is custom designed for the platform, the RSX is essentially a standard Geforce 7600 (yes, 7600, not 7800 like previously compared to).

If not all of them I am willing to bet my left testicle that EA will.

Yes, the GPU in the PS3 can access the stuff, though it isn’t something you’d want to make a point of; having the GPU hit main memory is about 1/3 slower than using vram. Don’t get me started on the latencies involved in such an operation.

The GPU in the 360 has a full 22.4gbps link to all ram in the system. 22.4gbps, you might note, is the same amount of bandwidth the PS3’s GPU has to its vram. Furthermore, you fail to consider the massive benefit the eDram on the GPU’s die provides the 360 (a 256gbps link to the framebuffer).

The SPEs in the PS3 also stink at any sort of branching logic (no branch predition). That means branch heavy logic (stuff like game AI) performs incredibly POORLY. Even a simple for loop poses a problem (meaning it is more efficient to unroll the loop, though then you have to have more memory for code, and then you’ve got to transfer in blocks from main memory more often, which due to bus architecture introduces its own set of latency problems). If you believe the SPEs are better than a general purpose processor for those tasks, I’ve got some prime realestate in Florida to sell you …

There is a reason why those games are dedicating an ENTIRE SPE for that logic alone. This is also why Sony is reserving an ENTIRE SPE for the OS.

In fact, the only reason why anyone would be insane enough to farm out branch heavy logic to an SPE is that the PPU doesn’t have the cycles left to run it.

BIOSHOCK alone is pretty much a more advanced game than any ps3 game i have seen to date, from the graphics with the water effets… to all of the ways of playing and the controllign enemys and complex fighting and crazy effects … people drool over resistence but i gotta say bioshock crushes it

The 360 is just as powerful as the ps3 sorry to tell you that u cant compair a tricore 3.2ghz against the single cpu ps3 with the ppu’s they equate out performance wise.

Sorry to bust your bubble but they arent “more focused on graphics and audio output” they are just plain out extremely diced down processing units that can only do fpu calculations yes it works great for some graphics and ai but its by far not specifically designed for it… its more designed for video processing actually.

Also hate to crush ya on this one but when it comes to believing sony or ubisoft, im 100% behind ubisoft they are one of the best game developers and sony is known for over hyping. And considering almost 98% of the games on the ps3 are 720p NOT 1080p yes there are a few but for the majority the ps3 cant handle it, and the same will be true for the 360….

But add to the fact that the 360 and ps3 power is about on level … but the fact that the 360 is MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to work with and program for will indead result in probable better graphics.

even assassin’s creeds 360 version is more advanced… they said the crowd ai for instance on the 360 will be more advanced than the ps3 version….

so hate to tell you this but the 360 is NOT under powered vs the ps3…