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360 and PS3 are “the same”

A developer has come out and commented on the next generation of hardware, stating that claims of the PS3 being more powerful than the 360 are unfounded. He says they have their differences, but results are the same.

Denis Dyack, president of Silicon Knights (and currently working on Too Human), has come out and spoken on the power of each of the consoles. While the PS3 is perceived to be the better console, it is actually just as powerful as the 360; no more, no less, from a developers point of view at least.

“The 360 and the PS 3 are equal in power in my eyes. Maybe the PS 3 has more processing power. The 360 has more available memory. It’s pretty much a net, net. The public perception of the PS 3 was that it was much more powerful. To developers, they look even.”

A potential blow to Sony who like to boast about their console being two times more powerful? Well, quite possibly, because it was one thing that Sony had hoped would give them an edge over competitiors. If multiplatform games are exactly the same (no improvement on graphics, gameplay, load speeds and so on) then why would anyone spend $599 (£450) on a PS3, when the 360 does it for considerably less dosh? The one thing Sony do have up their sleeve though is HDMI output, offering better visuals all round. Oh wait…

Dyack says that he believes that HDMI cable interfaces will make a difference in visual quality. That gives an edge to the PS 3. But he noted that authoring games in 720P resolution “looks nice.” He adds, “It is questionable if there is a difference between 1080P and 720P. All of our games are likely to be 720P because of the faster refresh rates. There are all kinds of trade-offs. It takes a lot more RAM to do 1080P. You’ll reserve RAM for the textures. 720P is just less pixels. There is definitely a huge difference from 720P and analog.”

I think that the idea of producing games in 720p will be used for many years to come. At least until developers have spent time with the system (360 included) and found ways to save space on the texture side of things to free up more RAM. At least one developer has already given up producing games in 1080p, due to the problem of frame rates and the like. Also, bearing in mind that 1080p isn’t common in anything but monitors at the moment, what would be the point in wasting man-power on developing something so few would benefit from.

Taking a step away from the on-going battle of “my console’s better than yours”, Dyack also mentions just how expensive the industry is getting.

“It’s starting to approach the cost of small budget movies,” Dyack said. “It will be there by the end of this generation.” […] Dyack says the costs of development are rising every year. “It is more risky for everybody,” he said.

It’s worrying that developing games is beginning to cost such a high amount. For small developers, who may not have publisher backing, they might be put off the idea of developing new games, leaving us with EA drip-feeding the population with the same churned out bullshit that we get year in, year out. Bear that in mind if you buy pirated copies of games.

Interestingly, he also hates E3; every gamers dream, every developers nightmare. He used to enjoy it, but blames the press for being too critical on content that isn’t even finished yet. (Wouldn’t have anything to do with their poor showing of Too Human at E3 would it?)


Dyack was suitably delighted when news came through of E3’s demise

Thanks to steggles for submitting.

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Comment by coojo on 2006-11-01 13:13:32 | Reply

they just figured that out

Comment by El $corpio on 2006-11-01 13:20:01 | Reply

I told you all for ages, overall 360 and PS3 have the same power…360 has much higher RAM bandwidth and PS3 has slightly weaker GPU but faster CPU.

Why all the fuss about 1080p when it usually won’t even be generated in 1080p anyway…upconverted isn’t any better

Comment by The_Glovner on 2006-11-01 13:42:37 | Reply

Cue PS3 fanboys screaming about how this is a lie and the PS3 is far better.

3.2.1.

Comment by J1980 on 2006-11-01 13:51:13 | Reply

Yeah and more times than not - they aint got a clue about specs and technical info. They say the PS3 is better just because its an improvement on the PS2

Comment by ... on 2006-11-01 13:53:56 | Reply

cool, but “then why would anyone spend $699 (£450) on a PS3, when the 360 does it for half the price?” Las time I checked PS3 was $599 and Xbox is $399… Also I want to see the 2nd gen games on the PS3 before coming to a full decision.

I thought $699 was the Premium price?

OK, apologies, I was wrong. Thanks for the pointer!

“why would anyone spend $599 (£450) on a PS3, when the 360 does it for almost a quarter of the price”

Please tell me where I can get a premium for 150 dollar ;-)

FFS! What are you all, maths geni-i?! Just so you all know, I haven’t had any sleep for well over 24h, so I’m allowed a few mistakes!

Didn’t you hear? The average Xboxic reader has an IQ of 140 :P

And the average Xboxic newsposter?

Ssh Doug, Curry told us not to make it obvious!

Comment by Hologuts on 2006-11-01 14:27:11 | Reply

I’ve alway’s thought both consoles would be the same. That’s why I started my next generation gaming 12 months ago..

Comment by HellLion II on 2006-11-01 15:34:41 | Reply

no compet no push de consol so no ps3 out yet no push tu the 360

less drugs?

Comment by The_Glovner on 2006-11-02 16:03:59 | Reply

No, more please.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2006-11-01 15:03:21 | Reply

This article on Playstatic as well?

Bound to get a lot more unhappy responses over there.

Why don’t you take a look ;)

We don’t have a “Duh” category yet?

Comment by El $corpio on 2006-11-01 17:32:38 | Reply

Actually the PS3 costs ~$750 in Europe!
In Europe the X360 costs ~$470

Don’t forget it’s not even possible to use the PS3 without some AV cables…about $30 for some decent ones. So $780/$470 (PS3 premium with AV cables costs 70% more)

Comment by Glenn on 2006-11-01 18:10:01 | Reply

hehehhehe :D That’s how we do it :D And about playstatic, almost no comments there on this subject yet :P

And BTW the most fun part is that, EUROPE can wait a few more months becouse “we will buy it anyway” eventhough it’s not only later here, but also more expensive! SONY :@:@:@:@

Comment by Steve on 2006-11-02 07:27:31 | Reply

I’m not convinced, the PS3 offers more technology wise period. And then theres this little thing called “The Games”. Motorsport, the new Grand Turismo, War Hawk, Killzone, I can go on… Any one of these games blows the doors off of anything being offered for xbox 360. 360 has its first game worth mentioning, Gears of War, finally being released, next summer maybe Halo3, other then that, 360 has accomplished nothing to get me excited. The original Xbox was awesome, the biggest leap in console history. xbox 360 is really, xbox 1.5, in my humble opinion…

Comment by MentalMaelstrom on 2006-11-02 15:30:03 | Reply

two words for ya…..Mass Effect

Comment by Johnie_Cage on 2006-11-03 17:25:11 | Reply

Actually the PS3 costs ~$750 in Europe!
In Europe the X360 costs ~$470

Where did you get this info from? The PS3 will cost 499,- euro (20GB version) and 599,- (60GB version) The X360 costs 399,- euro, the Wii will cost 250,- euro.

Research before you post, anyone?

Comment by The_Glovner on 2006-11-03 17:54:06 | Reply

I fucking hate Euro’s anyway, and if they ever force us to use them in the UK i’ll be going Sam Fisher Splinter Cell on the PM’s ass.

Comment by Kane on 2006-11-04 23:03:18 | Reply

you’re forgeting something, The PlayStation is the DOMINANT brand, not the slight better brand or sort of supirior brand..
its The Dominant brand, 106 000 000 of PS2 sold is a living prove of that. and 80% (84.8millions) are Hardcore fans of it.

while the X360 is strugling to get 10millions this chistmas, if you do the math, they have to sell 43 consoles per min to reach that number…

Comment by 972Uknow on 2006-11-09 18:13:58 | Reply

And when did the ps2 came out? Ages ago! So please don’t compare Xbox came out and blew ps2, sony is going down in EVERY business.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-01-10 11:50:16 | Reply

How many 360’s is it that have been sold now?

Is that egg I see on your face?

Comment by TOM CLANCY on 2007-01-10 09:47:03 | Reply

THATS wat ive been tellin all my friends i said ther realy da same thing 360 just has more power on the Xenos GPU and more memory but with the ps3 just more power on the Cell cause it has the 7 SPE’S cores but the RSX GPU in the ps3 is the same as Nvidia 7800GTX people think nah its more powerfull than 7900GTX no its nott i was reading this article other day about the 360 gpu its based on the ATI R600 da 360 gpu is more powerfull than the X1900XTX

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-01-10 11:50:51 | Reply

Just me or is every post on this page in italics?

Comment by Joe on 2007-01-10 14:37:40 | Reply

i am going to marry my xbox 360

Comment by Joe on 2007-01-10 14:38:28 | Reply

I think that gears of war is shi*

Comment by po0 on 2007-01-10 17:13:59 | Reply

I think your shi*

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-01-10 17:40:46 | Reply

I think he is shi* to.

I also think he’s a cunt.

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