Microsoft battles against Achievement cheating
Since the introduction of Achievements with the Xbox 360, people have played fair and some unfair to get a high as possible gamerscore. Microsoft has now started to battle the cheats who have gained a high gamerscore in an unfair way: swapping save games.
For all those of you that play fair, here’s an explanation: on some websites you can download savegames. When you load one of these savegames up (via XSATA or similar products), you unlock, or at least close to unlocking, an achievement. Some of the savegames go as far as unlocking the complete 1000 gamerpoints of a game. In the global leaderboards some of the top ranked people have even admitted to use this savegame trick to keep up with the other competitors. Former number 1 players Rance6 and ST The King have retired their race for gamerpoints because of the cheating.
In the fall dashboard Microsoft has introduced some new features that will make it harder to cheat with savegames, by making them not load up in the proper way, meaning they don’t work. But, with any security made by a human, it can be cracked by a human. The savegame sites are currently testing their current saves, and have been fixing the ones they can get to work.
Gamerscore tracking site MyGamerCard is currently implementing an algorithm that will flag cheaters. One of the things they can flag is for example if someone completes all of the Oblivion Achievements in one day. Even if you play for 24 hours straight, this is impossible.
Source: 2old2play
Yes but what if you go online after holidays, and you have achieved all of the 1000 points…? Won’t it be counted as 1 day?
Anyway thats great. I hate cheaters, and even more the ones on gamerscore…(pathetic).
That’s a good point you have there… I usually only go online myself when there’s a new demo to pick up.
Well, You unlock the achievements on your xbox, not on xbox live, so the date of unlocking will be added to the achievement. When you go online again, it just update you gamerscore and the dates of achieving achievements
Capishe?
Octually when you get acheivments when you are offline it doesn’t say date and time because you can always change the date and time on your 360 when you are online.
You guys need an edit button.
Octually I ogree with yau
lol that picture
Hmmm yesterday I saw a guy who had all achievements in pgr3 on the same day…
if you go on to www.360voice.com and find the highest daily rank change boards, the top ones are always like 3000, or 4000 points for 1 day. sounds like cheating to me..
Actually, on www.360voice.com part of the reason the top daily changes are so high is because if you have earned achievements before you got your blog, and then play the game it will show up as a change in gamerscore for that day. Often if you look at those people who get the 3K or 4K change in a day they have very few actual achivements for that day.
I’d give someone 50 bucks if theycould get all 1000 Gamerscore in Oblivion in a straight 24 hours and playing it for the first time.
I got them, and it took me 82 hours for the lot.
lol. I tried that thing where someone puts 750 gamerpoints on your profile, and two days later MS support sent me an email asking if I could call some 0800 freephone number…I never did call
Haha you should’ve called and recorded, I’m curious what they had to say
Yeah I was half afraid to call. My gamerscore was upped by 750 using NBA 2K6 which I dont even own. In the forums Im welljasona - which shows my gamertag
you paying for that service is the funny part,,,,send me $20 and i’ll tell everyone the great gamer u are
Its about time they stop the cheating
I couldn’t care less about this…
This is not cheating as I see it… in no way is GS cheating affecting me, or my gaming/online experience…
They should worry less about this and let these sad people fudge there scores…
There are plenty of Achievements in games that people gain through ‘cheating’ (i.e 8 hrs straight in GRAW, - just leave the lobby on LAN playing through), and it’s obvious when you check games list that they have used ‘other means’ than that which was intended… and what about some games (i.e. EA sports) that give gamerscore for pretty much buying the game, doesn’t sound like much of an Achievements….
Achievements whores can have all the points they want… if they still get their ass kicked in matchmaking then they’ll get laughed at.
Modding, bridging and the likes, that actually affect my experience online, is the type of ‘cheating’ that really needs sorting out IMO.
I stopped playing the ranked games on PGR3 because of the Bridging. Got myself down to 565 before they reset the scores, everytime you went in a room you could hear the cheats shouting with glee at a high rank coming in the room, two laps into the race and everyone seems to quit, motherfuckers.
Yeah, I remember seeing a guy on 360voice that got all 1000 poinst from PDZ in 1 day… Thats 1000 deathmatches played, the main story mode completed 5 times, plus more than that… Now, I worked it out and it is physically impossible to do this… If anyone wants to argue that then go ahead… You cannot win…
It’s only a gamerscore… people who cheat are sad, the people who complain about cheaters aren’t far off either.
They should worry about fixing bugs in their online games - I mean some of the games are completely unplayable - Prey and DOA4 . Achievements are so unimportant…
i like the fact u earn it urself personally!!! i’ve been waiting for a patch for DOA4 even with ppl only in the UK the lag is just plain stupid
Rance6 is a known account swapper … If you frequet www.360gamesaves.com you would know ..
Hes far from Legit … And the top 25 ( if not 100 ) are all the same.
We know, he admitted fairly that he used cheats. He “quit the race” though now that cheating has become the way to get high gamerscores.
No you dont know … He was one of the leading reasons that cheating is the way it is .. He would go too the site with saves he had to offer to others for other saves that he needed too complete games .. Like they were rare baseball cards ..
It the interview way back when he said he used cheat codes for games like Graw/Angels etc .. Not that he swapped profiles with ppl too not only obtain the lead but keep it till he sold his Tag.
wow, gamerscore whores are pretty much the bottom of the barrel in terms of malnourished ego, and willingness to be losery. i mean, who else but a bored, stupid, attention craving twelve year old tries to impress people with a six digit gamer score. christ.
- mu
Good! I hate it when people cheat
The game developers should just program their games not to unlock via savegames…
That makes no sense what so ever.
Why don’t you understand it?
I said, the developers should program their games only to unlock achievements when they’re achieved and not if the game checks the save game and sees that the player has completed 100%
don’t get me wrong, i am totally down with the concept of the gamerscore. it is very interesting when you meet a new friend to check out what they have done (i always go right to call of duty to check for the 1000). but people who cheat not only defeat the purpose, but expose what was formerly a well concealed flare for idiocy.
- mu
My thing is that the GamerScore doesnt say much. Its not really cheating because there no reward for it other than braggin rights. What should be looked at is STANDBY-ING!!! games like Saints Row and SCDA are games ive experienced it in the most. THAT is a cheating issue.
Right they should work on something that effects a hand full of games instead of the entire 360 online gaming community.
its about time
call of duty on veteran is a great example of an achievement you can actually learn something about somebody from. unless this achievement was hacked with a gamesave, you know this player has got either a lot of skill, or tons of perseverance. but there are other games that can give up 1000 gamer points in less than an hour.
also, i feel that achievements are an opportunity for the game developers to show what they would like to see gamers do in the game, to lead the way down the road less traveled so to speak.
i like the idea, but it seems like save games should be more closely linked to gamertags. i don’t know if they are being altered or not when they switch from system to system, but it was foolish of m$ to think that people would not do that if they could.
- mu
I like how Marvel does achievements/unlockables. You can have as many saves as you like, but unlocked characters and costumes are done by gamer profile. Xploited13 and I played on his file which is way farther than mine, and I still couldn’t use Ghost Rider since my gamer profile hadn’t unlocked him.
Irritating, but genius.
It’s about time the cheating comes to an end
Why are they bothering with achievement cheating when they should be working on something important like bridging? MS has got their priorities mixed up.
good job thry crank down on cheating but dont get rid of gsmesave transfers, what happens when PES7 comes out? No Optionfile! i think not!
Oblivion can be beaten in a day, simply by not leveling up. Morrwind could be completed in less than twenty minutes. Check this website out. http://speeddemosarchive.com/Morrowind.html
You missed the point, getting all achievements in one day is not possible, not the completion of the game.