Gears patch makes VGA look worse
You have to feel bad for all those folks out there without an HDTV. Not only can they not take full advantage of the 360’s capabilities, but they usually get shafted when it comes to resolution issues. Epic sought to address this in their new patch, and in the process have made the problem worse.
Xbox 360 Fanboy is getting reports from many users that are seeing a drastic reduction in picture quality as a result of the patch. US gamers are not the only ones complaining, it seems that the hatred for this patch from SDTV owners is universal.The overlapping text in the score display is not the only issue that SDTV owners have to deal with, the game is now jaggy and generally washed out. This is probably a result of the aspect ratio being reduced to 640×480. Some users have also reported a reduction in their field of view. Hopefully Epic will rectify this situation before long, and SDTV and HDTV owners can unite in slaughtering each other on the new maps.








I have the same ‘problem’ on my VGA monitor. But the reason for the reduction in quality is obvious. Before the patch the game was in 16:9 (even if you set your xbox resolution to 1280×1024), but now the aspect ratio changed to 4:3. This means it fills my entire screen, which means that more graphics power is needed. In order to maintain a steady FPS, they probably scaled the resolution down a bit.
Oh? I use a VGA cable and the picture actually seems better after the update.
On a widescreen 19 inch monitor, that is.
Widescreen monitors/tv are not affected by the patch I think.
Well, the strange thing is i have to run it on 1280×1024 widescreen, my monitor can’t handle 1368×720, has something to do with the aspect ratio I guess. Anyway, I’m not complaining.
A friend of mine uses a 4:3 21″ PC monitor and before this patch the borders were 3″ top and 3″ bottom, it was horrendous, now he says it’s sorted and fills the screen he is so chuffed with the patch as he now can see alot better.
At my VGA it looks good.
Its actually better for playing split screen as the monitor is not widescreen and i had to deal with black bars…
But for single, i gotta admit it looks weird..
Quote from Gamerscoreblog:
(Update - the Epic team is investigating VGA cable complaints that some gamers are experiencing due to the title update. We will update as we get more information.)
I have HDTV and it seems alot better after the update!
I can’t read fuck all after the update, looks squashed as hell. SDTV user here.
before and after the update i havent had a single problem with my resolution. im using vga on my 16″ monitor n i dont have any problems watsoever. the only thing i noticed is that when i enter a match in the lobby everything stretches for half a second then corrects itself. otherwise im problem free
.::: The problem for VGA-users is that they’ve applied the ‘old’ solution to get rid of the borders. Which used to be changing your 720p-compatible 1280×1024 resolution back to a 480p-compatible one. It was a workaround but wholly unneeded as the squashed look was rather slight and the 720p image made up for it.
But now the workaround is enforced, meaning that on a 1280×1024 monitor the lower 480p is all you can get. Quite simply VGA-users without a 16:9 monitor have been robbed of their 720p signal. You can see the difference easily as the front-end of the game looks ‘zoomed in’ with large options and less breathing space for the elements like it used to have. This is due to the lower resolution leaving less space for the elements which weren’t scaled (the entire picture itself was cropped).
Another tell-tale sign are the cutscenes, which suffer from more profound alias-effects. (The mouse in the chapter 2 Boomer introduction looks plain serrated.)
I really don’t get how this could’ve been approved as a solution. Especially since a 720p image was already possible and suffered only a slight deformation.
It’s like amputating the entire arm for a broken fingernail.
I wonder what Epic themselves has to say about all of this?
http://gearsforums.epicga...amp;posted=1#post24754045
this is the thread where the dev’s have been responding
Mark Rein should be completly blind. Is annoying how he keeps claiming the game looks as they expected when EVERYBODY (except him) with a 1280×1024 vga monitor can clearly see the game is now blocky and with no AA at all (in addition to use 4 : 3 ratio in 5 : 4 resolutions)
The issue is with 5:4 aspect ratio monitors using the VGA cable. If your monitor is 4:3 you will not see a problem. Mark Rein at Epic claims he tested and sees no problems but he was conveniently using a 4:3 ratio monitor
your calling taben a five year old you cant even spell HELP you idiot
As much as I agree with you, it doesn’t help your case when you use “your” instead of “you’re”. While we’re on the subject, punctuation helps.
opps you’re
the contraction is actually you’re, and seriously, why would you give the glovner shit over a typo? he has done as much for the community as anybody, and deserves some respect. he is like our morality watchdog. don’t bite the watchdog.
No I can spell help quite easily. But as I am typing this at work when really I should be working I don’t have the time to proof read my post for any little mis-type I may have made.
So thanks for your “HELP” but i’m afraid it wasn’t needed.
Spastic little cunt.
N3LSON you don´t have a clue about you are talking about. It has nothing to do with the 4 : 3 or 5 : 4 aspect ratio, and I warrantee it would look as bad at 1024×768 monitors as in 1280×1024. The only difference is at 1024×768 the aspect ratio is correct. But both modes look equally blocky and aliased.
Well here is a an idea that might fix the patch. GET AN HDTV. If your going to buy an HD console then first buy an HDTV.
Note 1: Mine looks fine post-patch. I feel for yuo guys with SDTVs that are having problems.
Note 2: Glovner, how sad are you in your life pal? Every post on here that you disagree with its “Fuck this and fuck that you horrible little cunt hair” Grow up dude. Chill out, smoke a little doob and lose the attitude all the time man. No doubt your opinions can be valid sometimes, but when you bring it out like this you lose all respect and credibility.
i don’t think the glovner’s stressing over the loss of YOUR respect dude.
smoke the doob, and keep the attitude, that’s what i say.
Once again, the language doesn’t change the message. Read the point I am making and stop trying to suggest that profanity takes away from the facts.
Fucknuts.
SO, is this game worth buying? i’m split between this or perfect dark
There is no way you can purchase Perfect Dark over Gears!! Gears pisses all over PD from a high height!!!
Is the problem only present when using a VGA cable to hook up your 360? Or is the problem when you’re using a SDTV?
How can you have both at once? No SDTV that I know of has a VGA hookup in the back? But nearly every modern HDTV does.
I’m lost. I played gears last night on a 27″ tube, hooked up w/ yellow/red/white composite cables. Looked fine to me.
Just tried the patch on my 20.1″ Widescreen TFT running at 1360×768. It looks the same as before tbh, I’ve got no issues here.
QA seems to be an area where MS or even Epic in this case are lacking in. It shouldn’t have gone out of Epic’s doors, and how the hell did this one pass MS certification I ask?
still looks great on my Samsung HL-S5687W over VGA
glovner, you’re right, you may have used a piss load of profanity but at least u still got the point across, i understood every word of that and it was actually one of the most intellectual statements i’ve read on this topic so far. just because he has a different dialect doesnt mean he’s not intelligent guys. get a grip on urselves and stop the whining. ya, that patch messed some shit up but a good gamer would work with those points and figure out how to compensate for the changes that were made. Sit on that idea for a while, test it out n see how it works for u.
4:3 resolutions on VGA break in most 360 games. That’s why I have my 360 set to “widescreen” mode and I just adjust the vertical height on my CRT monitor to match 16:9.
if glovner is an intellectual, then you dont want to know what that makes the rest of you guys…
agreed!
you do know ur including urself in that right kid?? so u kind of called urself a dumbass just like u think we are, its called think before you speak, or in this case…type. moron
CUNT TWATTING MOTHER-FUCKING SHIT-STAIN LICKER
Am I cool yet?!
Come on guys, don’t let this site get a reputation for being a shit-pit.
You were cool enough before that.
But that certainly helped.
They didn’t fix non. I still have the same f*********g problems. they reduced the grenade tag, Why.
Because grenade tagging was way to easy peasy lemon squeazy before. For me the best thing about the patch is the limit on 3 “downs” After all… 3 Americans in anyones game is enough.
Well i don’t have much of a problem with the gaming quality as its still amazing, but ever since the patch there have been to many connection errors with the game. i had never had one beore the patch and now most games i join online gets connection errors. And i know its not just me because everyone in the game gets it too. If they could fix this it would be great
Somebody has not left the match by any chance when it happens have they?
ya ive been in ranked matches where that message came up n i saw two ppl leave, ppl, when you see that message, DONT LEAVE. Its not your connection, it shows up because when one person leaves it slows down the game so the patch brought up that screen to pause the game and re-establish a full connection before it starts again so everyone has a top quality connection.
I concur.
It’s a good thing, means everyones connetion goes down and up together meaning you don’t get shit like battlefield where you stand and shoot a prone target for about 2 minutes only for them to dissapear as they have had a shit connection and are busy jumping around the map like some sort of epilectic flea.
I still think his opinions are self-serving and he is a little cunt.
If the patch fucks up resolution, that’s an issue. Glovner, if you can’t see that, you’re not only ignorant, you’re a cocky little bitch. :/
About profanity not talking away from a message, it’s unneccessary, unprofessional, and shouldn’t be considered as a form of dialect. I often use profanity to emphasize words but you have bastardized and ripped the English language apart. That saddens me but I guess that there is nothing we can do for you.
Sit at your computer, don’t type non-constructive messages. Your hand probably needs rest if you ever intend to be sexually satisfied. With a mouth like that, I doubt you get much…
Reposted because I didn’t say it at the bottom. Just want you to here my opinions about how much of a fucking ditz you are. Lots of love.
You posted twice because you wanted me to know how you feel about me, and I should care why?
And again, a hypocritical reply.
About profanity being unneccessary, or unprofessional. Sorry didn’t realise I was at work when I typed a post and at the end of the day as I am typing the post I think I will be the one to decide what is neccessary you just worry about your own useless input.