Comments on: Forza Motorsport 2 - European release date confirmed

By: Tyler

Tyler — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:51:16 +0000

How handy is that - my birthday is in may

whats the forza website somebody please? http://www.forzamotorsport2.com ?

By: The_Glovner

The_Glovner — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:46:30 +0000

American cars need big engines with enough torque to move their fat American arses along the road.

By: Lotus 111s

Lotus 111s — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:41:09 +0000

The point is ANYONE can put 1000bhp in a car, some people tune Nissan Skyline’s 2.5 litre engine upto that spec. The challenge is to make it easy to drive, the Bugatti Veyron is a simple car to drive at its top speed. If you watched Top gear last week on BBC2 you would of seen Captain Slow doing 253Mph without even breaking a sweat or even having to shout. Anyone who’s knows anything about cars will tell you that a Dodge Viper, while a great looking car, will never be that good as it’s got ancient design under that body(chassis rails) it’s problay even got leaf springs on it . McClaren got 240Mph out of a car 10 yrs ago, but according to people who took it to those speeds, it was a nervous twitchy scary thing. Drag cars get pass 253Mph in about the time it takes to crack a good fart out, but they are not easy to drive.

Although i will admit this at £114,000 that is one damn cheap thunderbolt of a car. You could get 7.5 of these to 1 Bugatti Veyron.

By: Pinkeye69

Pinkeye69 — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:34:54 +0000

” I can ‘t ever imagine a American car manufacturer coming up with anything to even remotely challenge the Bugatti Veyron, EVER PERIOD”
*coughs*
http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/1582/

By: Lotus 111s

Lotus 111s — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:25:53 +0000

Totally agree, 7 Porsche 911’s is a bit of a copout for me to, even if they are different power/handling models on them all.

By: Mr. T

Mr. T — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:34:53 +0000

No Astons and no Jaguars? There are way too many crappy Porsches though.

By: The_Glovner

The_Glovner — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:18:24 +0000

And I think I can answer for most when I say, we would like you to shut your fucking hole.

By: Pinkeye69

Pinkeye69 — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:52:54 +0000

“American cars are so badly put together it’s a joke. I can ‘t ever imagine a American car manufacturer coming up with anything to even remotely challenge the Bugatti Veyron, EVER PERIOD”

*coughs* http://www.rsportscars.co.../cars/viper_venom1000.asp
255mph enough for you?

By: Lotus 111s

Lotus 111s — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:46:50 +0000

It’s not who owns them now that counts, these company’s get brought out so company’s like Ford can try gain a ‘Prestige’ brand a-la Aston. As for Lotus using other’s engines (rover/toyota) that happens all the in the industry, jeez look at the Chrysler Crossfire it uses the old underpinnings from an ancient Mercedes. As for build quality of American cars even they admit it’s piss poor, which would explain why Japanese makers are leading the sales charts over there.

As for crash stats im not surprised Americans crash less, they have huge roads and drive like they got Ms Daisy in the back.

http://www.safecarguide.c...statistics/statistics.htm

By: lynX

lynX — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:51:24 +0000

look at the current mercedes models and take your words back please, mercedes is back at the top.

but why are you talking about car build-quality and englishness and whatever while the real question is who are the better drivers?
Since there’s stricter rules concerning driving licenses (age, and a pretty high level of testing your skills, at least in the netherlands) I’d say Europeans are better drivers..
We need some stats, I bet the americans crash more cars

By: Seansy

Seansy — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:58:24 +0000

i’m english. lotus isn’t. it was owned by proton but now it looks like the american giant ford will be owners soon enough. and anyway. the american have enough balls to build their own engines. not borrow engines from japanese manufacturers. American cars aren’t that badly put together anymore. in all fairness you cant say the same about mercedes in the past 10 years who’ve gone from bad to word. European marques are still the best at the moment, but the brits have none barr bristol. everything is owned by either ford (aston, jaguar) VAG (bentley) or BMW (rolls, mini).

That new HEMI out this year looks and sounds like a belter! hopefully it gets the credit it deserves!

Forza looks more and more like a killer game.

By: Lotus 111s

Lotus 111s — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:00:09 +0000

Ohh i’m gona love this argument.

European manufacturers concern themselves with building cars that last more than 5 minutes as well not just performance/Handling.
American cars are so badly put together it’s a joke. I can ‘t ever imagine a American car manufacturer coming up with anything to even remotely challenge the Bugatti Veyron, EVER PERIOD, let alone Rolls Royce, Bently, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and of course i can’t forget my name sake and the car i own, Lotus, to name just a few. American cars BAH it’s a contradiction in terms.

By: McGrude

McGrude — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:39:03 +0000

“Europeans make the best drivers” only because your auto manufacturers concern themselves with total performance (e.g. handling and horsepower) rather than Detroit’s obsession with straight line performance.

By: lynX

lynX — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:05:56 +0000

the only thing I miss is the murciélago LP640, but I hope that’ll be the first DLC

By: lynX

lynX — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:05:25 +0000

I think I just wet myself
hmm all those cars are my favorites seriously!!
can’t frikken wait for this game to come out!!

By: dabombarz

dabombarz — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:33:33 +0000

Well, I think the pics are very underwhelming. I am not like the graphical style or the backgrounds in this game. It’s suppose to be a simulator yet it looks cartoony.
I’m no fanboy but the PS3 Gran Turismo demo looked way better. Oh yeah, I know it’s not finished but May is right around the corner if you haven’t realized it and this came graphically still looks behind for a next-gen title.

By: worm man

worm man — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:39:21 +0000

LOOKS NICE….ANYWAY
WE WANT WORMS WE WANT WORMS

By: Scrud

Scrud — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:31:40 +0000

Their not great at doing that anyway, not like the germans anyway

By: Sean

Sean — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:28:20 +0000

You really don’t look at the environments when you’re driving… you look at the next corner, and that’s really it.

Regardless, they have plenty of time to finish environments off, and add the grass shaders. (After all, Che said the shaders are often the last things to be tweaked… and the 3d-grass is a shader effect).

By: Parm Mann

Parm Mann — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:49:38 +0000

hehehe, it was inevitable that somebody would start up that discussion!

By: Lotus 111s

Lotus 111s — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:40:39 +0000

This is good news really looking forward to this, it better support my force feedback wheel.
As for us getting it the same time as Americans, to bloody right show me a good American car that can go round corners?????? (other than Saleen which is designed by us Europeans anyway) all the Americans are good at is getting pathetic horsepower from huge engines.

*Starts the argument* :D:D:D:D:D

By: Parm Mann

Parm Mann — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:21:24 +0000

Afraid not Tucky, still just May but that’s good enough for me!

By: Tucky

Tucky — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:20:03 +0000

no full date still? just may

By: x El Scorpio x

x El Scorpio x — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:18:06 +0000

looks good, but gras & some of the enviroment looks a bit poor. I’d rather have it at 30 FPS with better graphics anyway…or 45 FPS or whatever

By: TRIGGER M4N

TRIGGER M4N — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:12:31 +0000

Mint!