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Review: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare marks a dramatic shift for the franchise. The days of World War II have been left behind for the present day, and the historical basis has been dropped in favor of a fictional conflict. Can the staples of the Call of Duty franchise survive the time shift?

Call of Duty 4 drops the player in the midst of two conflicts, against ultranationalist forces in a Russia in the midst of civil war, and against the forces of Kahled Al-Asad that have staged a coup in an unnamed Middle Eastern nation. It quickly becomes apparent that the two conflicts are connected, and that the leader of the ultranationalist forces, Victor Zakhaev, is providing the bankroll for Al-Asad’s coup. Just in case anyone was wondering about which side is in the right, Infinity Ward went well out of their way to make sure that the enemy forces were shown to be inherently evil with a segment that puts you in control of the deposed president of the mystery nation on the way to his televised execution. Toss in a healthy dose of slaughtering civilians and Infinity Ward has created an enemy that no one can sympathize with.

Players bounce between battlefields in the Middle East and in Russia, and from a cargo ship in the Bering Straits to the gunner’s seat in an AC-130 gunship. The campaign offers a good cross section of modern warfare. The SAS missions tend to be more stealth oriented, and showcase the role of special forces, while the USMC missions tend to focus more on larger firefights and large unit combat. The ‘on rails’ gunning sequences offer a nice break in the action and allow the player to take control of some of the powerful military technology they get to see at work around them in other missions. The variety between missions ensures that the campaign stays fresh and fun throughout.

Call of Duty 4’s storyline follows the lives of two soldiers, well three technically counting the flashback but it’s not that important, one of which is a US Marine, the other a new recruit to the Special Air Service. The story progresses much like you would expect, with the dashing and silent protagonists doing all sorts of heroic things and fighting their intrinsically evil enemy. Not surprisingly, the heroes prevail in the end. The one main difference is that Infinity Ward chose to make the theme of sacrifice central to the story. Let’s just say that Call of Duty 4 takes the saying “Freedom is bought with the blood of patriots” to heart.

One of the negative staples of the Call of Duty series has returned in the 4th game. The maddeningly steep difficulty spikes that have been present in every CoD game have returned. Just like in the previous games, players can be breezing through a level when they run into a particularly difficult segment, the sequence when you’re waiting for the helicopter at the end of the second flashback mission comes to mind, which stops them in their tracks. While difficulty spikes aren’t a problem that is limited to the Call of Duty games, the game certainly sets the bar with them.

Anyone who has followed the development of Call of Duty 4 knows about the plethora of weapons that are in the game. The sheer amount of choice is nice, but doesn’t come into play in the campaign often as there is plenty of ammo for the player’s starting weapons that switching is always an option, never a necessity. The real arena to showcase this gallery of death is in the multiplayer, where every weapon in the game is available for those with enough experience. Usually having so many weapons becomes largely irrelevant as one or two rise to the top and prove to be hands down better than the rest. This is not the case with Call of Duty 4, Infinity Ward has done an excellent job providing a good overall balance to the available weapons roster.

One of the best features in Call of Duty 4 is the bullet physics. Infinity Ward succeeded in making their series even more realistic by allowing bullets to pass through softer materials. No longer will your enemies hide behind picket fences and fire at you with impunity, the player can now shoot right through the fence and teach their enemies a lesson in choice of cover. This is an excellent addition that makes the game even more immersive and should become a staple in all FPS titles.

After finishing the campaign, players are given the option to try their hand at an Arcade mode. This mode simply lets players replay parts, or the entirety, of the campaign while earning a numerical score for their performance. It’s similar in fashion to the campaign scoring function of Halo 3 with one very important difference. The Arcade mode features leaderboards rather than related achievements. While this seems like a minuscule difference, it actually adds more replay value as players can keep trying to perfect their game to try and make it to the top of the class.

One of the downsides of the campaign is the lack of co-op. In a linear FPS like Call of Duty 4 there really isn’t any excuse for its absence. While co-op would have been new to the Call of Duty series, it needs to happen. Unlike games like Bioshock and The Darkness, the campaign does not offer enough on its own to offset the lack of co-op. Fortunately, Infinity Ward has greatly improved the AI of the NPCs so that they actually help the player. Usually AI squads amount to little more than meatshields, but the squad mates in CoD 4 actually help a lot and can be relied on most of the time.

The multiplayer aspect of Call of Duty 4 is one of the best implementations on the console. Had this game released three months ago, it would have been the undisputed king of multiplayer FPS games on the 360, but Halo 3 and Team Fortress 2 make for some stiff competition. Regardless of your feelings for the Call of Duty series, the multiplayer deserves your attention. The available gametypes are fun and varied. Playing different game types on the same map produces completely different experiences, and considering the number of gametypes and maps, you shouldn’t feel like your repeating yourself for a while. There’s a lot of variety in the maps which helps keep the multiplayer from getting stale despite hour after hour of play.

The online experience is extremely customizable. Players can create their own classes where they can use different weapon combinations. Players can unlock new features, like silencers or improved sights, for the weapons that are available to them, as well as unlocking additional perks. Perks are performance boosts and abilities, like additional health or bullets that penetrate surfaces more easily, that can dramatically change how a class plays. Sick of getting ganged up on? Toss the RPG perk onto your favorite class and teach your opponents a lesson for traveling in groups. The customization allows players to tailor their experience and greatly enhances the game’s value in the long run.

The multiplayer is not without its faults. After getting into a game, players can expect a smooth experience with lag being a rarity. Getting into the game can prove difficult, especially for parties. While finding a match is relatively easy, the game lobbies close down often enough to be noticeable, kicking the player back out to find another match. Parties can get split up as some members can get kicked out of a lobby while the rest of the party starts a match without them. While the problem isn’t debilitating, it does occur often enough to become a bother. The matchmaking aspect can also become annoying as it doesn’t seem to take skill into account when forming teams. The size of parties entering matchmaking also isn’t taken into account, so a group of total strangers can get paired up against a bunch of friends or clanmates who proceed to use their superior teamwork to hand out a beat down. There’s also no way for the match to switch hosts after it has started, so if a host decides to quit, then the match immediately ends. While these faults won’t deter you from playing online, they certainly impact the overall experience.

Call of Duty 4’s online aspect works off of a rank system. Players get XP for kills and completing match objectives and ‘challenges’, a kind of achievement like system that offers XP as a reward rather than gamerscore points. This XP allows the player to advance in rank and unlock new weapons and playlists. This feature is a double edged sword. It gives the hardcore players goals and rewards to work for, but also creates a large barrier to the casual players and newcomers to the game. The weapon unlock system helps the game’s replay value in the long run, but also makes the learning curve much steeper than it needs to be. Getting killed over and over again by players with better weapons and perks can get really annoying when you only have access to an M16 with an iron sight. The available playlists are even restricted, and when players start they are limited to team deathmatch and free for all lists. It’s bad enough when the people you play with in your first few matches online call you a n00b, but when the game you’re playing joins in it can get a little excessive.

Rewards won are not limited to the overall online experience, players can unlock rewards in the match by killing a certain number of players without dying. Players can unlock UAV reconnaissance, an air strike, or a helicopter gunship flyover by going on a three, five, and seven kill streak. These can really help turn the tide of a match, but more often than not, they’re used by the winning team to pound their opponents into the ground even further. They play well in a match between relatively balanced sides, but can become downright oppressive when you’re losing badly and the other team starts unleashing hell.

Call of Duty 4 marks a monumental shift for the series, and one that Infinity Ward has pulled off exceptionally well. The game offers an excellent campaign, along with marvelously balanced and fun multiplayer. The title offers the most complete package of any FPS on the 360. This is a game you’ll be playing for years to come. Unfortunately, the title also falls short in a few areas. The hiccups in online play, the barriers and learning curve presented to new players, and the lack of co-op in the campaign are all areas in which future titles can improve. These issues notwithstanding, Call of Duty 4 stands a cut above and deserves your attention.

Final Score: 9 out of 10 - Very Good (How do we rate games?)

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Comment by newguy on 2007-11-16 20:28:46 | Reply

How can you say that the game offers the most complete package of any FPS on the 360? Yes Call of Duty 4 was a great game and the campaign was amazing but let’s be realistic, the campaign was extremely short. There are many other games that have a more complete package than COD4 and id on’t want to turn this into a Halo 3 vs COD4, but halo 3 had an amazing and most complete package than any FPS on the market this year. Also what about the Orange box?

Honestly, I think Halo 3’s campaign was an embarrassment whose only saving grace was 4 player co-op. You are right about The Orange Box however, although I felt that CoD4 had a better overall online package than Team Fortress 2. As far as TOB’s campaign is concerned, the only new part of it is Episode 2 so I gave CoD 4 a leg up on it. As a product, TOB might be the better buy if you haven’t played HL2 before.

Comment by InfamousGuZ on 2007-11-16 21:20:59 | Reply

If it being short made it incomplete, then halo is less complete, I played both games on legendary and Veteran right out of the box, and it took me longer to finish CoD4. I’d say the games are both damn good and are fairly equal, but I will end up going back to Halo 3 Multiplayer some time down the line.

CoD4’s multiplayer is way more complete than TF2, both are also great, but CoD4 has me playing alot more than TF. I kindof got bored of the same maps on TF, and CoD4 has 16 i believe.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:08:45 | Reply

If we all just ignore newguy… he may get bored.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 03:11:40 | Reply

I agree with his comment re: Halo 3 offering a more COMPLETE package, mostly because of the inclusion of co-op campaign, saved films and screen shots.

but really, both games are great

Comment by EUPHOR1C on 2007-11-17 18:01:34 | Reply

COD 4 blows Halo 3 out of the water. Yes the campaign is short, but each and every level is fantastically designed. It actually makes you want to play through it again unlike Halo 3. I agree co-op is what saved Halo 3, but not by much. I feel the same way about Gears of War. Co-op saved it as well. Gears of War was traded in along time ago and Halo 3 is not far behind it.
COD 4 is the first console FPS game to bring in the complexity of rankings and upgrades much like BF2 on PC. I seriously haven’t the slightest desire to play Halo 3 ever again and lost interest even before COD 4’s release.

Maybe if I was 12, I would like Halo 3 a little bit more. Being that Halo 3 was my first time getting in the series I also had no friggin idea where the story line was at, and I don’t feel like picking up a comic book to find out.

Comment by Tucky on 2007-11-16 20:34:18 | Reply

shut up newguy lol, COD4 is awesome, yes its shor but then try doing it on veteran, its awesome, fantastically realistic game and when it comes to online its out of this world, possible the best game ive played on the 360 since launch.

Realistic? lol

Comment by Lone Goat on 2007-11-19 18:08:48 | Reply

Realistic: is in life like…

u shoot a guy in the head with any gun… he dies… no pussys shields

Comment by James on 2007-11-16 20:53:00 | Reply

its anything but realistic, you should try and get hit with a few bullets and see how heal up…. its a good game but halo 3 is still 100 times better

Comment by SilentAssassn87 on 2007-11-16 22:52:56 | Reply

I hope your not saying that Halo is any more realistic than CoD 4?

Comment by s2h on 2007-11-16 21:12:56 | Reply

Since this is now turning into a halo3 thread… HOW CAN U SAY HALO 3’s CAMPAIGN WAS AN EMBARRASSMENT?? That’s like saying chocolate doesn’t taste good. It’s just a blind lie.

Back to COD 4… great game… deserves a good score… now back to Assassins Creed

Halo 3’s campaign was boring as hell for me. I haven’t got CoD 4 yet but just by checking out all the vids I can say that it’ll keep me on the edge.

Comment by s2h on 2007-11-16 21:25:16 | Reply

I can see how being dropped off in the middle of a huge battle armed with a spartan laser and banshees flying around everywhere while all your troops die off and then you have to battle 2 giant scarabs at the same time can be boring. I guess I didn’t think of that Zan.

Im done trolling.. I just love my halo

Like I said, I found it boring. I wasn’t speaking on behalf of everyone …

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:24:19 | Reply

I got bored of it too. More like a scenic bikers convention.

Comment by Jamzy No 2 on 2007-11-17 03:45:06 | Reply

both were great games i liked halo but i relly sick of it now as i suppose i will be after going through cod4 single a few times

both games have great online modes to keep me coming back to both(prob cause there so diffrent)

Comment by FF on 2007-11-17 10:52:20 | Reply

“That’s like saying chocolate doesn’t taste good. It’s just a blind lie.”

A lie? It’s not a lie, it’s an opinion. Please learn the difference.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-11-19 14:33:57 | Reply

Something I have been trying to get across for sometime now, nice to see i ain’t the only one that thinks that.

Comment by Vegas Local on 2007-11-16 21:13:28 | Reply

I lhave always loved the Halo franchise but in my opinion COD4 was ten times better. I have already quit playing Halo 3 about a month ago. I felt like I was just playing Halo 2 in HD. Nothing really new. All my friends have already traded in their copies of it and I was thinking about it. It was a great game until I beat it.

Comment by s2h on 2007-11-16 21:15:32 | Reply

All my friends have already traded in their copies of it and I was thinking about it….. MORE LIES!!!

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:22:34 | Reply

Actually probably not. Not everyone can afford game after game and CoD4 (the new game on the block) everyone on your friends list playing it - but say you can’t afford it, but you’ve beat Halo3 time over - what do you??? - you trade it in until something new again comes along

Comment by whatev on 2007-11-19 16:05:46 | Reply

Jay, jay, Jay. When you’ve beat halo 3 time over, you hop on XBOX live with the half million people online playing it. Halo 3’s multiplayer, in my opinion, trumps COD4’s out of the water. And let’s be serious, developers spend 80% plus of their time on multiplayer … why? because it’s that much more important to FPS then campaign. COD4’s campaign clearly blew Halo 3’s out of the water … but then again Bungie wasn’t particularly interested in making their campaign awesome … it’s always been all about multiplayer.

I like COD4 a lot. I have more fun playing Halo 3 multiplayer then I do COD4 … COD4 is just too repetative. I.e. not enough spawn points … maps to small … no costomization options when it comes to maps … On the plus side the massive selection amongst game types is awesome. I really like the Old School games.

Whatev, back to Assasin’s Creed anyway. When I finally beat it I’ll be back to Halo 3 for awhile … maybe the DLC will be free by then.

Comment by Sage on 2007-11-16 21:56:24 | Reply

Halo 3 single player bored me as well, CoD4 was just the better game, period. CoD4 is bloody REALISTIC it just wasn a simulation of what real life war is like( going by your logic R6: Vegas wasn realistic either cause it had regenerative health, right?).

Comment by Strawbs on 2007-11-16 22:06:45 | Reply

COD4 vs Halo3…Halo3 vs COD4. Can’t we just all get along?!?! I love both of those games for different reasons. Now back to the subject. COD4 deserves a 9. GREAT Game!

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-16 22:41:49 | Reply

Logic has no place here !!!!!!!!
lol :P

Comment by Tucky on 2007-11-16 22:11:07 | Reply

Halo 3 is for kids COD4 is for men.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-11-16 22:27:00 | Reply

Actually they’re both technically for men, since they both have ‘M’ ratings.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:20:24 | Reply

Well I have mentioned on the forums a little while ago that all you seem to hear playing on Halo is teenagers… other than after 11pm I don’t think I actually hear adults.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 01:27:04 | Reply

honestly, I don’t know who is on YOUR friends list Jay, but I play with like minded adults.

there is no shortage of children playing ANY online game, and CoD is no different, but I play with friends mostly. As far as who’s on the other team, I couldn’t care less.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 03:48:49 | Reply

timezone mass…think timezone… my 11pm when I start to hear normal people is your what time??? Im talking about ppl not on my friends list when you matchmake.

Comment by mu on 2007-12-05 20:58:45 | Reply

Comment by Strawbs on 2007-11-16 22:33:36 | Reply

“Halo 3 is for kids COD4 is for men.”

That is a retarded comment.

Comment by Lone Goat on 2007-11-21 21:56:40 | Reply

i hear i alot less little kids on COD4

about 1 or 2 a night.. if that

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-16 22:43:28 | Reply

I know you mention no co-op through campaign, but you should also mention the there are no guests allowed for any online MP games.

Further, system link still only allows for a max of 4 users. 1 per box!???!!!

WTF?!?!?!

Great campaign, if a little short and easy.
MP is pretty good too, but theres just not enough to keep me coming back time after time.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:18:26 | Reply

Except for a game with only 9 chapters, crap ending and a mulitplayer with all of what 6 weapons

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:19:00 | Reply

mulitplayer lol lol :D I always do that god damn it

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 03:50:12 | Reply

OH soz Mass lol, if I had looked at the name b4 commenting, I wouldnt have commented :) we’ve been through all this on the forums

Comment by SilentAssassn87 on 2007-11-16 23:01:00 | Reply

*sigh* I saw this comming. This game is great, and a 9 is a God Damn good score. For all of you who just HAVE TO COMPARE CoD 4 to Halo and Halo to CoD 4… Halo 3 recieved the same 9/10 rating from Xboxic. Basically what I am saying is that both games are fucking amazing. You would think that the way some of you were arguing would reflect that you are being paid off by Microsoft/Infinity Ward to hype the games. Both games rock, both games are FPS, but both have different THEMES. Halo…Sci-Fi shooter. CoD 4…MODERN COMBAT, its in the fucking name. Both games give you guns and assholes to kill. Both games give you MANY online match types. Play the game that has a stronger calling to you and stop bashing the other.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-16 23:16:02 | Reply

That was a great review. Loved it word for word. Im not really sure why people seem to compare CoD4 to Halo3 ?? Both games have guns and that’s about it.. Halo3 is king of the futuristic shooters. Call of Duty is king of the historic/modern day shooters. Im sure both games weren’t released to rival or be copared to each other… Sergeant Peas Vs Masterchief ??? what planet are you on. I prefer CoD4 over any game ever made right now - but openly biased towards it. Halo 3 is still a great game and I personally would only compare it to Perfect Dark Zero.

Great Review Alex… got a boner with your name on it :D

Comment by STUMPA on 2007-11-16 23:43:19 | Reply

both halo 3 and cod 4 are excellent games and are totally different but both are well worth buying because of that fact

Comment by mu on 2007-11-16 23:45:56 | Reply

i am a huge fan of the call of duty series, but i have to say how disappointed i was in the single player campaign.

although it has been a staple in call of duty games for years, the use of infinitely streaming enemies to ramp up the difficulty is a technique used in video games from the eighties. it is archaic. it takes you out of the game, it removes any aspect of true military strategy, and combined with the time limits on a lot of these missions, it can become very frustrating.

infinity ward seems to want players to crawl under streams of bullets countless times until our friendly ai gets triggered into moving forward. killing enemies doesn’t make any difference in many of the sections in this game. there are a few “house clearing” sections, where enemies do not countlessly respawn, and those are incredibly fun.

playing through on veteran, i rarely found myself using the gun, but rather looking for cover points, and then sloshing toward them to the next completely linear scripted event.

i will use the television studio as an example. i must have spent two hours meticulously popping heads from the doorway (maybe fifty or sixty!) before i realized that it was doing NO GOOD at all. later, i was able to complete this section in les then a minute by running straight to the back room (NOT the point marked on the map by the way) to “trigger” the miracle cessation of enemy spawns, and collect my men. needless to say, this was not a satisfying victory, and it was a pattern that repeated itself throughout the game.

there are countless other ways to increase difficulty other than infinite enemies and idiotic friendly ai (yeah i said it, i think the friendly ai in this game is a complete joke). infinity ward disappointed the hell out of me with this campaign, and i have yet to read a single review where this is even brought up, so i thought i would mention it here.

I hear you mu. I filed the infinite respawns under the “maddeningly steep difficulty spikes”. Rest assured you’re not the only one who hates this. As far as the AI goes, maybe it doesn’t perform as well on veteran. I played through on hardened due to time constraints and found the AI to be more than capable, and often saw them doing a great job of covering my flanks, and even clearing a few rooms on their own.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 01:31:05 | Reply

there are no parts in CoD4 with infinte spawning enemies.

CoD3, yes. But not in this one.
The TV studio was a major pain, but the enemies stop coming if you kill them all. Trust me, I stayed in the first doorway too, and eventually, there was only ONE GUY left, and I killed him and moved on.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 01:37:38 | Reply

“there are no parts in CoD4 with infinte spawning enemies.”

this has been confirmed not true by too many to trust you on this mass 9. i am not sure if a pussy like you played through on veteran or not, but you may have to to experience this.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 01:57:36 | Reply

here is one of many many quotes i found on the matter. it is VERY easy to find info on this matter:

“Man, to play COD 4 on veteran you have to run but not gun, that’s the key. Think TV station is hard on veteran? Just run fast to the place where the exit is, sit there 2 minutes (nobody will visit you and it won’t be any grenades), then all enemies will die by themselves and you will free to go.

Of course, you can stay there trying to shoot everyone but you can do this for years in real time, same enemies will run same way with same animation, again and again forever.

And this is the whole game. Bullets don’t kill enemies, only running.”

this exact sentiment is repeated over and over in the forums throughout the communtiy. you are the ONLY one i have heard contradicting this.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 03:26:14 | Reply

http://forum.xboxic.com/s...=62377&postcount=1197

lol, little boy, when you decide that you’d like to GROW THE FUCK UP and stop trying to start shit with me, I’m sure that I can find it in me to welcome you to this othwise fine comunity.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 04:02:19 | Reply

LOL :D A comment made by me too…

They don’t respawn, the TV room proves they don’t and also many areas on Shock & Awe when they come out of buildings and some sit in the windows. Soon as you’ve killed them a few times, the guys in the windows dont come back

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 04:42:25 | Reply

ok you douchebags, here is an excerpt straight from the gamefaqs.com cod4 guide, startup tips section:

“*Preset vs Infinity - this regards enemy group sizes. Every area with bad guys
will either have a set number you must kill, or they will keep coming no matter
how good you kill them. But here is the trick to both: be aggressive. Just run
toward all groups of enemies in a timely fashion. This is the only way to take
out the neverending groups, since taking their areas chases them away, and it
also works on set armies.”

i believe that is exactly what i said, and the fact that you claim to have killed everyone in the tv station proves absolutely nothing. post it on youtube or stfu.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 04:54:47 | Reply

and just in case there are any more doubts, here is a quote from the ign guide:

“At the same time, enemies are infinite in Call of Duty (unlike Medal of Honor). Until you occupy the spawn point (generally a building), enemies continue to pour out like a badly cliche’d clown car.

You can exploit this by adopting the Battlefield 1942 experience and simply marching towards a strategic point. Once secured, buildings no longer spawn enemies. ”

that’s here:
http://guides.ign.com/guides/902590/page_2.html

now, lets see that youtube.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 06:52:17 | Reply

ok here is another quote from the ign guide:

“For example, in The Bog, enemies will continuously rush the disabled tank until you take out the RPG soldiers on the rooftop. Once that’s done, you can move away from the tank to the subsequent task.”

i just wish there was a set number of each enemy. or possibly a set number of enemies that you yourself have to kill. the prospect of literally having to swim through an ocean of bullets is one that you are constantly faced with in cod4. there is nothing more satisfying in a single player mission than that first moment on the battle field after a heated skirmish where there is no gunfire heard, and you know you have only a few enemies left. these occasions are so few and far between in cod4 it is almost heartbreaking. i want to love this game, but i end up wishing it would just let me take my time, and meticulously dismantle the competition.

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-17 00:11:40 | Reply

Wow, 9 out of 10, you really went out on a limb there. You so-called “reviewers” are so absurdly predictable. Why do you even bother? I’ve already read this same cookie-cutter review in 18 other websites, all of them ignoring the multitude of issues with the multiplayer. “Lag is a rarity”?? Are you fuckin serious? Did you even play the game? Have you ever actually watched a killcam?? This game is an over-hyped, broken-out-of-the-box joke, which has sadly become more and more prevalent in today’s gaming world. Pathetic.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 00:35:34 | Reply

So … have you actually played it? I don’t get no lag. Most games are over-hyped. Logically if there was no marketing for games and they just put them in the shops without anyone knowing.. how would that suit you?

If the reviewers are predictable - then again, what would you have rather they said or scored it. You’re just coming across stupid because you have problems with it & so must the whole world. If people don’t like it - then just trade it in or sell it on…

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-17 01:16:24 | Reply

“I don’t get no lag”

And I’m the one coming across as stupid… KTHNX!

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 01:44:14 | Reply

It still stands…

Comment by whatev on 2007-11-19 16:13:26 | Reply

I’m surprised you say you have gotten no lag … usualy those in the UK have the worst issues with lag. I see lag constistently … It’s typically very short, but it makes a huge differnce when trying to pull off headshots … changes the game really. And I have a very nice connection (1.5 M Up, 12 Down). That is very odd … lag is a common complaint in the community.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-19 16:58:19 | Reply

try playing with fellow ukers. i am in california, and i have a lot of fools from the uk and ireland on my list, and i have a fast connection like you, 22 M down and 1.5 M up, and that is the only time i ever see lag. it is not just your connection that you are depending on, it is everyone else’s too, and they may not have the bandwidth to support your distance if you are too far.

if you are playing with fellow ukers, than i am sorry for wasting your time, and i wish you all the best in your troubleshooting.

fyi, i almost never get lag in this particular game. i think tf2 and two worlds are the only two games i lag out in, and i think that is across the board. oh yeah, and the darkness, which is too bad, cause i think ctf with darklings v. humans is a blast.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-20 13:24:37 | Reply

I have not yet had an lag games in CoD4… have had lag in darkness when it was only 3 players, have had lag in NeedForSpeed games when there have been only 4 racing… Have had Lag in CoD3…

Comment by Lone Goat on 2007-11-21 22:00:12 | Reply

“I have not yet had an lag games in CoD4″

same here… but when the host quits.. that does bug me.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 00:42:05 | Reply

i have experienced no lag at all, and in fact i find the multiplayer portion of this game to be fantastic.

check your network settings. your 360 should either be in the dmz, or you should have ports 88 and 3074 forwarded to the 360. definitely try it.

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-17 01:29:19 | Reply

Thanks, but I know a little about networking– I’ve been online since my first 2400 bit/s modem almost 20 years ago. This would also be evidenced by my nearly seamless online experiences with games like Halo 3 and R6V. Maybe there are some developers that understand how to program a functional multiplayer experience, while other teams (i.e., Infinity Ward, Epic) are more concerned with shiny and sparkly graphics to camouflage their incompetence and dazzle all the mindless lemmings reviewing their games?

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 01:35:14 | Reply

seriously, if you are going to bitch, follow the instructions first. i don’t care how well you think xbox live is performing for you, it will be better once you take care of your network.

and cod4 has plenty to offer in the multiplayer arena, it would be worth forwarding your ports just to play this.

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-11-18 00:19:24 | Reply

You always seem to complain about lag. Get a job and pay for a decent connection because out of about 50 games, I’ve had maybe 2 of them lag on me. I’ve heard something similar to these from almost everyone I’ve played with, too.

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-11-18 00:35:11 | Reply

*50 CoD4 games, not 50 different Xbox games.

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-17 00:19:05 | Reply

Also, you lost all credibility by mentioning Halo 3 and TF2 in the same sentence. TF2 is seriously LAUGHABLE. Standing on it’s own merits, it isn’t even worth a 400 MSP download on the arcade. Luckily it was packaged with a few decent distractions in the Orange Box to *almost* (but not quite) warrant a purchase. You need to go back to the drawing board with this review– at this point you’ve wasted everyone’s time as soon as they get past the headline.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 00:36:16 | Reply

….??? Voyager2K….

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 00:44:33 | Reply

i found this review to be informative and well thought out. shit shack, you have brought nothing to the table, as usual.

this review is worth reading.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-11-22 14:21:37 | Reply

Well mu said it best, I don’t need to repeat it.

Shit shack, psml.

Comment by S2H on 2007-11-17 00:23:22 | Reply

HALO3

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 00:57:45 | Reply

kudos to Mu… :D

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 01:30:53 | Reply

danke schoen.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 04:44:52 | Reply

and i’m sorry i called you a douchebag earlier for supporting mass9 and his mis-informed spawning theory.

Comment by MoD Gunslinger on 2007-11-17 07:26:19 | Reply

I lol’ed.

I can’t believe I read every comment AHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA…
People are hilarious these days.

I hope you don’t take offense to this comment, you all seem to take offense fairly easy.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 07:34:07 | Reply

i’m really just here for the entertainment value. the edification is a side effect.
and bravo to my fellow thespians… they deserve it.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 14:15:30 | Reply

I don’t take offence at all…not from the front page anyway.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 16:09:12 | Reply

it’s OK… I’ve never stuck around in a game long enough to see enemies respawn. I shoot, kill, they calm down & I run, plus im only 3/4s way though it on Veteran. Mass9 is alright I get on ok with him.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 20:08:01 | Reply

yeah, he’s just trying to get under my skin.
I don’t pay too much attention to that crap.

and honestly, I haven’t run into any real problems in CoD yet. I can’t think of an instance where it seemed like the enemies kept re-spawning. re: the TV room, I swear, I didn’t get the checkpoint until after I killed every baddie from inside the first room.

I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen this happening (yet). But there are a lot of people bitching about it, so maybe it does happen. I’ll wait to see it to believe it.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 20:36:54 | Reply

i am just trying to get under your skin? this whole thing started when i made my comment on how the mechanic of infinitely spawning enemies was undesirable for me, and your response was:

“there are no parts in CoD4 with infinte spawning enemies.

CoD3, yes. But not in this one.
The TV studio was a major pain, but the enemies stop coming if you kill them all. Trust me, I stayed in the first doorway too, and eventually, there was only ONE GUY left, and I killed him and moved on.”

which, it looks like, you may now have been “mistaken” about.

i was just making a comment about the game, a pertinent one at that, and YOU are the malevolent little putz that came waltzing in with your contradictory smack talk, so don’t blame this one on me.

and yes, it does look like you were wrong on this one.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 20:55:21 | Reply

although, to be honest, i wish you were right. if i found out there were no infinite respawning enemies, i would start the whole game over right now, and REALLY enjoy the hell out of it. as it stands, i have more loathing for the single player game than love. although the multiplayer is amazing. search and destroy is true poetry in motion. the game is fantastic. but as has been mentioned, this “modern combat” is not too far removed from its former wwii counter parts. gameplay is pretty damn comparable.

Comment by Wet Vein on 2007-11-17 08:12:06 | Reply

Someone said it took them longer to beat Call of Duty 4 than Halo 3….. WTF??? You must suck really bad at Call of Duty.

I really loved Call of Duty…. but overall Halo is the better game. And not just because of co op. When I play Halo online or off…. everything just feels right. Long range, short range, driving, flying or cracking someone’s skull…. it just feels great. Kinda like when your in bed sleeping… and you kinda wake up a little bit….you turn over, maybe flip your pillow…. and then you feel your woman’s hand grasp your cock….you know what time it is. Ooooh Yeah!! - Ok, maybe that’s going overboard a little but you get the point.
~Just my opinion of course… but I’m entitled. Your mom told me so.

Comment by buff on 2007-11-17 13:19:36 | Reply
Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 20:46:32 | Reply

thanks. i like the cast of mad tv, but they did mediocre with the content on this one. mildly entertaining, but maybe should be in a halo post though huh?

Comment by Eurus on 2007-11-17 14:45:39 | Reply

it seems to me that Halo perfected the classic FPS game, now it is left in it’s own dust as games, in an attempt to compete with it, are creating incredible innovations. think of it like…counter- strike vs. Goldeneye(?, not sure about that example).

Comment by Daze Of War on 2007-11-17 15:44:57 | Reply

All of this won’t matter next week anyways. For I will be playing Mass Effect. I loved both games I just thought that COD4 brought something more exciting in multiplayer and Halo 3 brought Halo 2. I enjoyed playing Halo 3 for 2 weeks but now I’m on to something new.

Comment by mike on 2007-11-17 18:55:14 | Reply

mass9 do u hav a life? every topic yor fuckin name is in there!

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 19:34:32 | Reply

what business is it of yours though?

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 19:40:51 | Reply

yeah, if you’re gonna dis, you might as well put some substance into it. just because a man takes time to post doesn’t mean he doesn’t have shit going on. i mean, the man owns stock in EA! there is tons to work with, but a “do you have a life?” post is pretty much the most tired drivel you could have possibly busted out with. it just makes YOU look lonely and pathetic really.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 20:04:39 | Reply

and the stock is pretty stagnant right now, but its still rated a buy.

Still, the outlook for the USD makes me wonder if this invfestment will pann out for me. Currency risk is a bitch!!! and the stock is only traded on the NYSE

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 20:58:27 | Reply

wait for rockstar to release.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-11-17 20:02:55 | Reply

hi Mike, thanks for your concern re: my life.

I actually just got back from my office. I normally don’t go in on a Saturday, but I had a monster deal to close. While you were wondering about my life, I pulled in just over $1100 in commission today.

my gf is on her way over to my house, and we’re going to go shopping this afternoon for some new furniture for her apartment (not yet finished, but we’ll keep it at my place for now). Later, we’ll be going downtown to a lounge (not much for the clubs anymore, sorry) and have a few drink with friends. Its one of my good friend bdays today.

Also, I’ve booked a thotel room tonight so that I don’t have to drive home drunk.

so yes, I have a life.
Its pretty darn good too.

Finish high school, go to university, get a degree (or two) then get a well paying job, buy a car, get a girl, your own place to live and a handful of true friend that you can count on for anything. Thats my life little boy.

and yes, I play games, and yes, I comment on games.

shocking, isn’t it?

turd.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-17 21:17:23 | Reply

Well said Mass… well said…next time I get asked that question I may start reeling off my daily routines..lol

Comment by AN angry H0BO on 2007-11-18 01:10:45 | Reply

mass9 has no friends in real life.

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-18 03:01:05 | Reply

Yes, that will prove much. I’m actually an astronaut, and I just got home from harvesting golden moon rocks for my good friend Denzel Washington.

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-18 18:27:08 | Reply

and I actually believe it to be true

Comment by Kid Outhouse on 2007-11-18 02:59:19 | Reply

LOL, hilarious. Ure my nu intarweb heroe!

Comment by whatev on 2007-11-19 16:26:12 | Reply

mike, if you have the time to notice that mass9 has commented on every page, you’re almost a BIGGER loser. Because you took the time to read all the comments and then did not post. Like some sort of voyeur with binoculars through a window … creepy dude.

mass9 is probably like me … this is the only game site not blocked by his firewall at work (shh … don’t teall anybody).

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-11-22 14:25:23 | Reply

You can add me to that list, firewall stealth site, gotta love it.

Comment by mike on 2007-11-17 19:49:36 | Reply

makes yor mum look lonely and pathetic realy!

Comment by mu on 2007-11-17 20:43:09 | Reply

damn! you are on fire! how are you coming up with these superbe slams?

Comment by mike on 2007-11-17 21:32:20 | Reply

im a penis crumpet

Comment by mu on on 2007-11-17 22:54:50 | Reply

i suck big fat donkey cock! nice and salty… yum yum

Comment by mike on 2007-11-17 23:20:53 | Reply

stop hogging it all

Comment by Wet Vein on 2007-11-18 01:26:50 | Reply

Dibs on the anus.

Comment by Sage on 2007-11-18 01:37:22 | Reply

Wow, how xboxic has changed. It used to be filled with smart people who always had something to add to the conversation/s, now its filled with immature little pricks whos only joy in life is to start fights. Sad really, at least the forums are still ok.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-18 02:45:02 | Reply

i’ve been coming here for years, and it hasn’t changed even the slightest bit. only the names change.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-18 02:45:58 | Reply

and there was some good discussion here, sorry you missed it.

Having just read all 95 comments on this review I’m kinda shocked by this one: I thought they were actually quite coherent for a change ;)

Comment by mu on 2007-11-18 06:12:40 | Reply

well, just finished on veteran (that’s all three!), and i gotta say, no fighting in the war room was a super biatch! i basically went through every checkpoint memorizing enemy locations and coordinating the fastest way through the map, almost to the point where i could do it with my eyes closed. it was painful, but unlike many of the other levels in this game, if i went through it a second time, i think i would smoke it. it may take me some time before i am ready to join the mile high club. that shit looks absolutely mind boggling.

Comment by benno on 2007-11-19 15:19:12 | Reply

cod4 best game ever halo 3 was shit sold it first day i got it

Comment by mu on 2007-11-19 16:59:39 | Reply

oh yeah? what color underwear is your mom wearing today? oh nevermind, i got em right here.

Comment by mu on 2007-11-19 20:21:39 | Reply

i’m sorry, that was unnecessary. i just had to take a shot at someone spouting halo-cod comparisons. i think we have heard someone say either that or the opposite several hundred times by now.

Comment by Noneedhomes on 2007-11-20 14:15:04 | Reply

What’s a blind lie? Stevie Wonder saying he can drive a car?

IMO - COD4 outdoes Halo3 in most departments, especially the campaign. Halo3 theater option is brilliant, shame you can’t save your killcams of your own and your kill streaks. the challenges built in to COD4 are an achievement in itself. who needs online achievements when you have these little beasts? i love getting these along with all the perks you earn. then classing out your gun packages is absolute class. I can’t get off this game, it’s keeping my away from my GOW and that’s not right!! If anyone has played Shipment on Domination then they will know a good multiplayer game indeed, so frantic, it’s untrue. it’s like Annex on Raven Down for GOW but tighter!!! LOVE IT.

Comment by Strawbs on 2007-11-21 20:00:25 | Reply

Blah, Blah… ho-hum… I’m going to go home tonight and play some COD4… then I’m going to play some Halo3. Then maybe mack to COD4, then Halo3 again. (-:

Comment by UK JAY on 2007-11-21 20:59:45 | Reply

I’ve got Halo2 here, seeing as theres no achievements I may run through it on easy… see what fight it was that needed finishing.

5 *****!!!
It is just awesome! Forget Halo3 / Gears of Wars etc..etc.. this is the one for me :D
(single player campaign could have been longer)

Comment by gary on 2008-02-09 18:26:45 | Reply

that at the top was me msn can u get create a class wiv out live?

can u get create a class without live?

Comment by lone goat on 2008-02-11 01:46:55 | Reply

ummmm no

Comment by APHEX QUAD on 2008-04-09 10:38:44 | Reply

Is there any way of speeding up cod 4 live ?
I am a pretty good player for a 36 yr old,
But sometimes, i shoot, but there is a delay,
then i am dead again !!
Or could it be a crappy internet conection ?

Comment by mu on 2008-04-09 17:15:53 | Reply

if you are going in straight through the modem, and your connections speeds are good (go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest) (look for at least 750k up and down), then you are doing everything you can.

another important step would be to go to the network blade on your 360 and “test abox live connection”. if you get anything other than “open” for your nat, then you are firewalled, and need to adjust your router settings or plug straight into the modem. if you ARE plugged into a router, try plugging the 360 DIRECTLY into the modem, and see if that solves it. if it DOES, that means you have an administration breakdown in your network. try putting your 360 in the dmz or forwarding the appropriate ports) i recommend using the dmz if you are not already.

i have a d-link router that DOES NOT WORK with cod4. i have the 360 in the dmz, and it still lags unless i go straight into the modem. i replaced it with a linksys wrt54g with custom firmware (the OLD SCHOOL version 1 router with tons of flash), and have had no problems.

so in short, it could be your connection, it could be your network, first thing to do is see if you can get a good session going straight through your modem. fyi, you will probably need to reset it when you switch. jkust unplug the modem, unplug the router from it, wait 15 seconds or so (for the modem to clear its flash), then plug the 360 into it and plug it back in. if your settings are automatic on the 360, and you have a cable connection or something that doesn’t require you to log in, you’re ready to try it. if not, you have to configure the 360 to connect (you probably qon’t have to do that).

good luck, and post back with your results!

Comment by hobo on 2008-04-11 02:30:25 | Reply

We all know that there is only going to be one game that is going to be played till 2010, and it aint going to be COD4.

Comment by PatRdaly on 2008-10-22 19:40:14 | Reply

yeah cod 5

Comment by mu on 2008-10-23 06:38:50 | Reply

the world at war beta is smashing. it offers three maps with a handful of game modes.

it has vehicles a la cod3, and a perk system similar to cod4. the maps are fairly well sized and well designed.

co op “single” player campaign too! less than a month! i am psyched!

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