Comments on: Microsoft insider spills the beans on 360 failures

By: PHoenixSS

PHoenixSS — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:27:56 +0000

I’m jumping on the no-RRoD bandwagon here. I’ve had mine for nearly a year now and it’s been working great. I got the 2 Red Rings only once but it was my fault. I had the system in a cubby-hole in my entertainment center laying horizontal and after a 5 hour stint with a friend playing GoW it shut itself down. Turned out it just overheated.

I pulled it out and sat it vertical next to my TV. It literally runs cooler than my PS2 now. No problems since.

By: The_Glovner

The_Glovner — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:42:09 +0000

When you say “foreigners” I take it you mean non-Dutch?

By: Japgun

Japgun — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:58:51 +0000

blabla, mine works and I have a First Generation

By: EvolutionOX

EvolutionOX — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:57:12 +0000

Yea I know karma sucks balls lol But hey im not mad at Microsoft. PS3 is a good machine but im not a fan of it

By: IBELIEVEEVERYTHING

IBELIEVEEVERYTHING — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:05:43 +0000

I was takin the piss.

Dumb asssssssss

By: Lone Goat

Lone Goat — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:24:04 +0000

DAMN 13…. check your life b/c your krama Suck flaming balls

again i owned a launch system from day one…. no issues

By: Lone Goat

Lone Goat — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:21:39 +0000

or…. you could go to the store and buy some great games… there is sooooo much more to the 360 then “Halo”

By: Lone Goat

Lone Goat — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:18:01 +0000

your not jinx… i’ve said that 20 plus times on this site… the only issue i Ever had was last week. When a friend toss his bag on top my power brick… 2 red lights.. i called to find out what that meant.. the 1st thing she asked was “where is your power brick?” poof no more half RRoD.

By: Lone Goat

Lone Goat — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:13:16 +0000

ummmm welcome to the biz world……

dumbass.. everyone does a little screwing to the ppl.

By: BleedingEyes

BleedingEyes — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:41:17 +0000

WOw, a lot of foreigners on this site, looking at the frequent mention of “30 days replacement”. I wnet tru 3 360Pro’s so far and my average replacement arrived within 21 days (not working days, but days in general). The fastest was 3 days because I got Microsoft to cross-ship on my last defective unit.

Ow well; looking at the features vs. the flaws of the entire 360 (hardware, software and community), I think we have nothing to complain about over the last 2 years…

By: eric

eric — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:33:01 +0000

had mine since a few months after the launch, had a rrod and a messed up USB port but it fixed itself?? Just started to work normal again

So i still have the box to return in, but haven’t needed to.

guess im a lucky one.

ps mines been vertical for a majority of its life and has either (a) been on a vertical stand with a fan (b) been vertical in a cold basement on cold tile

By: Moonbase0ne

Moonbase0ne — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:55:44 +0000

I never got the RRod but my 360 did start scratching and cracking discs on me after 9 months. But I was lucky enough to have gotten it from Costco and just took it back for a full refund. But if I had gotten the RRod 3 times and and to wait 30 days each time I would be pissed too.

I might be picking up a PS3 this year. Not sure yet. They have some decent games on it but I would mostly get it for a Blu-Ray player at this point.

The 360, with all it’s problems, has the best lineup of games right now.

By: TimeLord68

TimeLord68 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:43:18 +0000

I actually moved to the PS3 this weekend trading all in for the Sony system. I’m the same I only ever have 3 games at the most, and with the recent problems with LIVE, RROD x5 and dealing with customer support enough was enough. I’m more surprised on how good the PS3 is. OK the concept of live is better but HOME will address this and close the gap with a refreshing concept. I also find that there is a more mature gaming community with the PS3. I to have been with M$ with the orignal xbox from day one.

By: TimeLord68

TimeLord68 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:39:55 +0000

I actually moved to the PS3 this weekend trade all in for the Sony system. I’m the same I only ever have 3 games at the most, and with the recent problems with LIVE, RROD x5 and dealing with customer support enough was enough. I’m more surprised on how good the PS3 is. OK the concept of live is better but HOME will address this and close the gap with a refreshing concept. I also find that there is a more mature gaming community with the PS3. I to have been with M$ with the orignal xbox from day one.

By: TimeLord68

TimeLord68 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:20:54 +0000

Wonder how long it will take before the true situation regarding LIVE will appear. Microsoft are showing their true colours,using the gaming community loyalty to try and gain the holy grail of gaming system supremacy. If this was any other product ie a TV would you stick with the same model, I think not. Sony must be quietly enjoying this. What a shame.

By: noneedhomes

noneedhomes — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:01:08 +0000

i will never get rid of the 360, its a superior console, just flawed by manufacturing. they’ll get it right eventually. at least they let you send it back to get fixed for a 3 year warrantee period. i got the ring of doom and it took 20 days to send off and return.

By: steven ratty

steven ratty — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:40:16 +0000

its what we all know, but if they did not come out when they did with the 360, i dont think it would be as good as it is now. and its made sony get off there arse.

By: EvolutionOX

EvolutionOX — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:24:57 +0000

Well Jeb has a good list there but I’m a verteran compared to that list I’ve been through 13 Xbox 360 Premium/Pro and 3 360 Elites. The 13 Pros were all from microsoft sending back and forth through their warrenty they ended up knowing me by name at the 1 800 number and the 3 Elites were switch outs from BestBuy cause I have a 2 year warrenty from them. And my friend Arian can comfirm the 13 360 pros I’ve been through cause hes been through it with me.

By: the azn american

the azn american — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:20:13 +0000

haha im on my second and it was fixed fast so it all alright but the 360 is one of the best consoles so im ok with it

By: EvolutionOX

EvolutionOX — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:01:35 +0000

Wow this year (2008) is going to suck major for microsoft unless they do a overhaul big time. This is ridiculious I’m very dissapointed in the way they do business.

By: MP3

MP3 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:59:23 +0000

I have PS3 and Wii and xbox360 i had rrod for 3 months, and to be honest while my xbox360 was broken the play time the PS3 got in those 3 months was almost as equal to the play time my dreamcast gets. Its a nice peace of technology with on practical purpose, to cover an area in your room where you dont want to get dust and surveilance alarm system, the ps3 is freaking dust and fingreprints magnet.

By: Steve Perry

Steve Perry — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:00:44 +0000

Luckily I’ve only had 1 xbox 360 die on me, but despite the long waiting time and the frustrating call waiting times, I prefer it to the PS3 and the Wii.
Microsoft should know better than to mess their fanbase about though. If you push people, sooner or later they are going to start to push back.

By: Kid Outhouse

Kid Outhouse — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:17:49 +0000

I don’t see how this article changes anything. We all knew they were fucked up for a long time– what difference does it make how or why? Of course Microsoft is trying to get a step on the competition, why else would they be in this business to begin with?

You people amaze me with your ignorance and sense of entitlement. Don’t try feigning outrage when you know damn well that unless you want to play carnival games with your wii remote or watch blu-ray movies all day, then you’ll still be fucking with the 360 for a long time to come.

By: Ungreat

Ungreat — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:34:20 +0000

The problem is that although an altenate system like the PS3 has a low failure rate, it also has about three games worth buying.

I am pissed off with my consoles dying (2xrrod 1xDVD-Drive dead) but the rest of the “Xbox world” such as live is top notch.

Maybe if PS3 could match the 360 on the software (games and OS) side I would consider switching.

By: StGermain

StGermain — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:26:00 +0000

They should make a cool ‘n quiet one and give us a trade-in, they can afford it. It would create an incredible amount of goodwill. Sadly this will never happen.

By: Hoei

Hoei — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:25:29 +0000

I had my second one go dead last week, actually my third, because I removed the X-clamp on the mobo and gave it a second life about a year ago. I did not send it back, because it takes too long to get one back. (that is a personal opinion, I know.) Last week I picked up a arcade version with hdmi, turns out to be a ‘Falcon’, so let’s see how long this one holds up. At least this one doesn’t heat up like the ones I had earlier, it stays very cool. Maybe they actually figured out how to make a durable 360

By: strahd01

strahd01 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:12:57 +0000

Well i am on my second i would never get rid of it because the 360 has the games this generation lets hope the falcon chip and maybe the new gpu mobo (comming in summer) will handle these problems so when my second one breaks in year or so i can get a defect free one

By: whatev

whatev — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:06:34 +0000

I’m on my fourth XBOX … and I still couldn’t be happier. Should they have releasedsuch a crappy product? Probably not … did they make it right? Yes. The three year warranty more than made up for any problems with the console in my eyes. There is one issue they created with this fix … and one that severly angered me.

Many retailers (ie Best Buy) offer an extended warranty that goes above and beyond what the manufacturer’s warranty … i spend $50 on one when I heard that the 360 had a ludicrus 90 day warranty at launch. When they extended the warranty … they basically nullified my fifty bucks. I think that is crap, and I’m still pissed about it to this day. The one nice thing was that after the THIRD system crapped out, I had the option to upgrade to the elite for 30 bucks. I did that, and haven’t had any problems.

By: b man3737

b man3737 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:48:48 +0000

I’ve had mine since September 2006 and haven’t had a problem yet… *jinx*

By: mass9

mass9 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:41:52 +0000

we are the minority.
*knocks on wood*

and mine’s been vertical the WHOLE TIME.
I think its all about luck. Most of my friends have had their machines break.

I understand that us with the still working launch boxes are the exception and not the norm. While it never directly affected me, I hate the idea of a ‘crap shoot’ when buying something, ANYTHING, and this is no different.

Hardly acceptable but I can see how MS wuold’ve made the decision to roll them out. I think that even with the neg. press the boxes had, it was still a ‘win’ for MS as their install base was a full year ahead of Sony’s.

And besides, it was ONLY a $1000000000 problem to fix, right?

By: Zan Toplisek

Zan Toplisek — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:31:08 +0000

ditto

By: Mikis

Mikis — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:24:48 +0000

Bought one on the release day, never had a single issue

By: KultiVator

KultiVator — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:59:47 +0000

I am more worried about the game certification process that routinely churns out games with major issues on Live.

As good as a working 360 is - there’s no excuse *1* for the still present (in UK) live problems during the evening (daytime seems less of a problem - and no it’s not down to my ISP) *2* games with broken features (party play dropping members in COD4).

It’s a closed eco-system where MS controls and assures the quality of what gets released.

Moan over - 360 is still my favoured console - but there’s some lessons to learn from this MS.

By: Arian

Arian — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:53:24 +0000

I hadn’t had any problems, I’m on the elite and the guy I sold my original Premium to still works just fine. I’ve always kept it vertical until now, but I don’t fret because the room temperature is pretty chilly in here.

By: Worms

Worms — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:14:46 +0000

I’m really amazed at all the problems with the 360 (I’m on #2) design considering my original Xbox from launch is still running strong and has never had a problem.

By: Sean

Sean — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:39:49 +0000

Okay then - trade it in, someone else will just buy it.

This is only Microsofts second attempt, I think it’s clear they’ve learnt from their mistakes, they have even admitted so.

By: EUPHOR1C

EUPHOR1C — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:38:12 +0000

I’m currently on my fifth system since launch. Yes, I have had to send in my bricked 360 four times. All of the guys I work with also have had their 360s RRod at least once.

By: IBELIEVEEVERYTHING

IBELIEVEEVERYTHING — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:24:41 +0000

IM TRADING IN MY 360 RIGHT NOW. I AM OUTRAGED. OUTRAGED I TELL YOU. HOW DARE THEY.HOW DO THEY DARE. DARE HOW THEY DO.

I LOVE YOU GUYS.

By: wonky

wonky — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:14:02 +0000

It worked. Although it was flawed it got to market with some impressive titles well before the competition. As long as they fix the problems I am happy. A silent cool 360 would be great though.

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:13:04 +0000

After reading this article, I’m considering trading in my 360 (3rd replacement). I don’t want to support a business that rushes a product out simply to stay ahead of the competition. It’s about the gamers not about the money. Pissed off gamers= no money.