u meen this isnt about teh almighty chief? well its teh end of teh world as we know it!$%!
own3d lolz EX
i is sad mage wand lvl 34 is also sad now …=(

stop….

You always make my day.

I think a lot people don’t quite know what Noob means. I hear people calling people noobs just because they use a certain weapon. For example swords in Halo. I remember noob used to mean simply someone who is new to the game now people call people noobs cause they do somthing they can’t.

Or because they use the easy weapons that were designed for newbies, i.e. the M16…

Anyone can sit in a corner with a sniper rifle and rack up loads of easy, no risk, long distance kills. Which then allows you to get the 5 kill or 7 kills streak required to bring in the air strikes and helicopters which just ruin the fun of the game. There’s no sense of fair play or healthy competition to it. The only good thing which I’ll say in COD4’s defence is that you can identify from the killcam where the noob is and come at him from a different angle and take him out before he ruins the whole game for everyone else. That’s why it’s for noobs. It’s an easy way of winning a match. I much prefer out in the open no holds barred action where there’s nothing to protect you and you have to rely on your skills and reflexes to get your 5 or 7 kill streak if you really want to use the airstrikes, etc. That’s HARD to do. Sitting in a dark corner of the map and taking guys out with a single shot from 50 odd feet away is a doddle in comparison. Airstrikes allow you to rack up kills that aren’t really your kills at all. It’s unfair gameplay in the same fashion as spawn camping. It’s a noob tactic. Get your arse out in the open with a machine gun/rifle and we’ll see how good you are then.

And if you think Halo has a great story arc, then you’re very easy pleased is all I can say. Although based on most of the movies that come out of Hollywood, that clearly the case anyway.

And for the record, I never said I hated Halo. I enjoyed Halo 1, 2 and 3, but to claim it has a great story with interesting character development or twists is simply ludicrous. It’s just a very basic shooter. Very slick and well manufactured, particularly in the online code, but a basic shooter at heart with only the hint of a story compared to other shooters.

Novels, novels, novels. They could be discounted in most cases, but there has been so much invested in developing the universe that to say the story is for the easily pleased is a fallacy. Not to mention the ad campaign for Halo 3, which did a great job of fleshing out the story before the game even arrived. The games themselves have a lot of internal politics and hidden elements (Halo 2 and 3 primarily). You have to look for them, though. They’re not going to jump out at you. The story is all around, in-game and out. It’s like Star Wars. If it’s canon… it’s story.

If you want to talk about easy kills, look at the P90 and M16. Sniping in COD4 isn’t really that easy as it’s generally counter-productive to the game itself, which was designed for twitch shooting. Ghillie suits and hiding spots don’t matter when you’re on the radar with every shot, everyone runs wherever they feel like, and every class has the three frag perk. Either way, the guns wouldn’t be in the game if they weren’t meant to be used. It was better before when it actually required a fair amount of leading to hit, but IW decided to change that for people that complained about it being too hard.

In something like Battlefield, which does actually try to stay realistic (it’s more like what COD4 wished it was), sniping is productive, requires skill, and is also actually worth doing because the maps are big enough and it’s worth finding a good spot. They can’t hold down an entire team like in COD, but they can certainly aid the fight. If you’re spotted, then everyone on the enemy team knows you’re there, so it’s your own fault for getting caught.

Personally, I like it when aspects of the story carry over into multiplayer. In something like COD4, I want the multiplayer to feel a bit like my friends and I are playing in or around the story and being immersed. To replace AI squad-mates that are stacking on doors with a bunch of people bombing maps with frag grenades and doing stupid things, that ruins the game for me. I guess I’m just done with “traditional” multiplayer shooters.

You make some excellent points here. I agree. Personally these days I find fighting against other people in multiplayer less interesting or rewarding as playing WITH people I like to achieve a common goal. So I tend to like games now that offer a co-op option. Like Gears of War, Merc 2, Army of Two, that kind of thing.

I must be getting old, or something.

I also meant to say that I despise the grenade noobs in COD4. Particularly the ones that throw frags on the off chance that they’re going to hit someone without having actually spotted them. I got hit with a frag in a match after about 5-10 seconds of starting the game. The guy who threw it ran from his spawn then threw the frag across the map simply because he anticipated that someone was likely to be coming that way. He’d obviously tried this noob tactic a number of times and got guys. He found himself with a lovely brand spanking new player review for unsporting conduct. Call me old fashioned, but I only attack people who I see in the game, not throw frags towards enemy spawns effectively ruining the experience of the team I’m playing against. Guess that’s just my code of honour, whatever you want to call it. I would never do something so blindingly childish and downright selfish in a game with other supposedly adult players.

I believe in two people going at it with equal opportunity and the best player taking the prize deservedly, not stealing it by what I regard as out and out cheating.

Oh and at the risk of hogging the limelight here, I wouldn’t have sniper rifles or grenades in any competitive multiplayer game. They simply spoil the fun, if abused, which they regularly are in my experience. The same applies to air strikes. There’s simply no need for them. It’s an easy way to wrack up kills by calling in AI helicopter which rips into the opposing team unfairly.

Okay, I’m gonna stop typing now. I’ve had my moment.

Newb is someone new to the game, Noob is someone who just sucks at the game, lol.

Manodestra, your a fag, if you want a story arc read a book dipshit.

I never said I wanted a story dumb ass. Try reading the previous posts. At the top someone claimed Halo had a story which, I will give you, it has, although rather flimsy. I never said I didn’t like the game, I do. All I was trying to say umpteen posts ago was that it doesn’t have very much of a story to the extent that it’s a bit of overkill to even mention that it has one at all.

No amount of homophobic BS you spew on your keyboard is going to change that opinion.

Get an education.

Calling someone a Newb or a Noob either way is just gay as fuck, call them a cunt and be done with it.

Sort of why I reference Tekken 2 rather than however many versions there have been since then. I’ve never played a beat em up that really made any progression of that title. Lets face it, it is a pretty simple format and most attempts to improve them (adding to true 3D for example) have ended up in a less playable game. Bring back Way of the Exploding Fist on the C64 I say!

Tekken 3 was the best Tekken. Faster and more fluid than 2. Also DoA4 was pretty good too. Never got the attraction of VF though I tried it.

It’s funny you say Beat em up’s haven’t progressed since Tekken 2, same can be said of FPS games in that case and no progress really made since Duke 3D. Only Genre that progresses really from the technology is probably Racing games (as it’s physics based, not the gloss).

I may dislike the FPS genre, but I do play them from time to time (but only if they have a decent story or in the case of Halo 3, someone lending it me. Gotta be said, Halo 3 has an absolutely awful story, worse than those you find in some beat em up games and that is saying something.

I agree.

It doesn’t discount his argument. I kind of agree that Bungie should start something new but ‘The Halo Universe’ is too much of a cash cow to ignore. I’m not sure that creating Ghost Recon in the Halo Universe (what it sounds like to me) is really moving on but you can’t blame them for wanting to stick to what they know/what the fanboys want. Still, if they want to make a new Halo game just make a new Halo game, no need to cash in on the licence with another new gametype. If it ends up good then I’ll play it whether it is Halo or not but you have wonder what next? Uno Halo edition?

I wouldn’t say it discounts his argument, but it does negate any chance of him gaining any respect for his argument by using blatantly homophobic references in his posts.

Can’t understand why so many American guys persist with this highly offensive mode of speech in this supposedly enlightened age.

Fair enough on the “gaylo” comments, if I had just said “Halo3″ then no doubt Veritas would have composed a pointless 500 word response. It would appear that by using “fanboy” and “gaylo” in the same paragraph means that the irony was lost…

I’m afraid that you need to know what irony actually is before you can try to implement it.

Better luck next time, eh?

LOL
It’s so true that no one knows the meaning of irony… =)

Dear Mr Wacko.

I was very unhappy to see your attempt at baiting my son above. I know it often seems that he is an overly opinionated young man with an unhealthy interest in others written abilities but I assure you that he is really a very good boy. His only hope is that he can spread the love of the English language and in some way help to educate others. We continue to work hard with him in the hope that he will some day accept that others can have an opinion and that his is not absolute and this it is acceptable to make small spelling and punctuation errors on online forums. Until then, please ignore his 500 word responses as they provide a source good therapy for us. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the community for helping in his rehabilitation by supplying many of the previously mentioned errors for our perusal.

Mrs Veritas

PS. Regarding your reference to ‘Gaylo’ - you are a very naughty boy if you were my son you’d be in for a spanking!

Alanis Morissette doesn’t know what irony is and she even wrote a fucking song about it.

Rain on your wedding day isn’t ironic, it’s just bad planning.

and how the fuck can you plan the weather for your wedding day?

Do it inside?

Always have a plan B, especially on your wedding day that happens to be outside.

LOL, well played. I’m sorry my 500 word responses pain you so. Maybe a picture book would be more to your liking?

It’s a standalone game and as such will have it’s own set of achievements. The achievements left to unlock in Halo 3 are for the Mythic map pack which is due early next year.

No.

Article, read:

“Then, the second part of the Halo 3 expansion trailer was shown. Scheduled for release at retail stores in Fall 2009, Halo 3: Recon (the game’s real title) will add new campaign missions to Halo 3, the story of which precedes the events that unfold in the last game in the trilogy and does not feature Master Chief, but a new hero altogether.”

They clarified on Bungie.net friday that it will be a standalone disk, and that they have no plans to release it as DLC.

Of course i the past when they have said that the have then made such plans …

That doesn’t mean it’s not an expansion, though. They’ve released extra content on discs before, remember? It was after being available for download, but maybe this is just too big.

Let us refer to the Command and Conquer 3 expansion (even though it did shit)

To you maybe, but not the numerous fans of the fighting genre…

“Fighting Genre” = Old School Shit.

We expect more from games these days. Welcome to the 21st century.

What makes it shit? I personally don’t like it, but there’s more skill involved in knowing when, where, and how to break a combo than there is in buying a modded controller and using a silenced pistol as a sub-machine gun.

The fighting genre was great back in the day of PlayStation, and the in arcades, but we tend to expect a far greater and deeper gaming experience than just frantically tapping buttons and pulling off combos these days. We expect a range of different types of gameplay, cut scenes, character development and lo and behold the word of the moment, STORY.

I’m not saying other people aren’t allowed to play them. They’re simply not for me. Hence the expression of my opinion above. I’m surprised anyone can still play them. Its like going back to play Pong. Why would I want to when I can play COD4, Gears Of War, Fallout 3, Fable II, etc?

I disagree on many levels.
Not everyone needs a story to have a fun game.

And who says that just because it’s a fighting game there is not going to be a story? Most people who enjoy fighting games don’t really need a story anyways, and I think the developers picked up on that.

People do enjoy these combo games, because it takes skill, and to a point, knowledge of when to use these combos. There is a depth, especially when there is many combos that beat other combos and vice-versa.

=)

I don’t discount that at all. I can see why some people might still be drawn to these games with less intensity and depth than others.

All I’m saying is as far as I’m concerned, they’re a dying breed of games now. There’s less and less need for games of this very specific type. People tend to want more depth and variety of gameplay now. And I have to admit, I’m one of them.

WOW what a fucking inteligent comeback, you thick bastard.

Ooh, big deal a game has some religious chants in a background song. Are the Muslims going to get pissed and try to ban video games?

Yes, yes they probably are.