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Gears of War 2 and matchmaking don’t mix

With millions of copies of Gears of War 2 already sold and with the game breaking all kinds of records regarding online play, there’s also a downside to playing GoW2 online, believe it or not. Apparently, some gamers playing the multiplayer versus modes have suffered from some serious matchmaking issues, with game waits ranging from 10 minutes to an hour. Thankfully, Epic has confirmed that it is aware of the problem and is working to fix the issue.

On the official Gears of War 2 forums Epic’s Six Okay let the community know through the Q&A section that the issue will be fixed soon.

“This is an issue that’s affecting some folks, and Epic and Microsoft are both looking into it. I’ll let you know more details as I have them.”

Waiting 10 minutes to an hour for a quick round of chainsaw massacre and curb-stomp goodness is a bit too much, but it doesn’t seem to keep gamers from playing. How are you coping with this issue? Did you even have issues with the long waiting times or do you embrace them by using them as bathroom breaks? Did you make a couple of awesome screenshots you want to share with others or are you just losing lots of sleep over this game? Let us know below as usual or post some screens in our excellent forum.

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Comment by Kid_Outhouse on 2008-11-15 14:41:44 | Reply

Wow! Everyone put your hands together for Epic. They put a broken product on the shelf, charged everyone full retail, and now they’re “looking into” the problems. Simply amazing. What a great company that stands behind their product and vaguely mentions fixing it’s issues. We are just so lucky as video game consumers, aren’t we? Normally when you buy a broken product you get a fully-functional replacement or you get a refund– but not here. Epic is so dedicated to its customers that I’ll bet we see a fix within the next 3-6 months.

Comment by mass9 on 2008-11-15 15:07:29 | Reply

your non-sense is stale and old.
you have become irrelevant little man.
move on to troll somewhere else?

Comment by Smitty on 2008-11-16 02:16:55 | Reply

Except for the fact that he’s right and you cant deal with it because your a brain washed twit who needs to take a long look in the mirror and except the fact that you are not as great as you think you are. Now go ahead and do what you do every time you post something, pat yourself on the back for your self proclaimed witty humor and sarcasm and then have sex with your make believe girlfriend.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-11-16 04:25:03 | Reply

He’s not right in the slightest. He has no idea what goes on at the testing stage of development in a game’s lifecycle. It’s hard coding normal code never mind code with asynchronous multi-threading and dealing with TCP or UDP protocols networks with an uncertain number of users and load on the servers. Couple that with the stringent amount of red tape and politics BS involved in companies like this and you’ll soon see how difficult it can be to get 100% bug eradication on literally thousands of lines of object-orientated code prior to shipping your product.

Typical half baked negativity from the usual suspects. Stand up for what you like to see in games, not for what you hate in them. That’s counter-productive and, frankly, incredibly boring to read.

As, inevitably, ws THIS post. :-)

Comment by Kid_Outhouse on 2008-11-16 05:06:29 | Reply

Smitty took the words right out of my mouth. Only problem is mass9 is long gone… he always runs away and hides like a little bitch after responding to me, scared of the virtual ass-reaming he’s about to receive.

Comment by Kid_Outhouse on 2008-11-16 05:44:08 | Reply

I don’t want to hear about how difficult it is, these guys have 6+ years working on this series, and all they did was make the exact same mistakes as with the first one. Gaming apologists just like you can pour in here and make excuses all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that there is no tolerance for incompetence in any other industry like there is for gaming.

Comment by AN angry H0BO on 2008-11-16 07:33:24 | Reply

-sure thing fag, shouldn’t you be finishing your boyfriends reach-around?

Comment by Takumi on 2008-11-16 10:37:15 | Reply

Smitty took the words tight out of your mouth? lol never have i heardyou speak the truth in such a way before, thats probably because your the same lame ass fag sat behind a computer eating cheasits and playing warhawk.

Comment by Sean on 2008-11-16 14:21:55 | Reply

If you want a refund - take the game back.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-11-16 20:18:55 | Reply

KO - I didn’t say I disagreed with you. I agree to some extent and therefore I’m not an apologist in any shape or fashion. There are some diabolical bugs in Gears 2. Some which I find it hard to believe that even exploratory testing would not have discovered. There’s a ledge that you need to drop down from inside the worm in act 2 before sawing one of those membranes and the only way I have found to drop down is to go to the extreme right and your body seems to squeeze through an invisible wall to drop down. This in itself is almost irreprehensible.

However, the tone of your inital post implied that the game was worthless and that there were no possible excuses for the game appearing without bugs.

Firstly, it is a great game. A tremendous accomplishment on the part of all the Epic developers. The glitches are annoying, but don’t detract from the overall experience. The fun is only spoiled marginally.

Secondly, since network gaming appeared on the scene, I’d struggle to mention a handful of titles that worked smoothly and without glitches of some sort. Gears 2 is no different. The revamped multiplayer element in Gears is great. Very well designed and laid out. The game will inevitably receive a patch in the near future in the same fashion as Gears 1.

You need to be able to see both sides of the coin rather than pissing and moaning all the damn time. It simply doesn’t achieve a thing.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-15 15:29:29 | Reply

“Normally when you buy a broken product you get a fully-functional replacement or you get a refund– but not here.” It’s not the game itself, its the coding. Dumbass. Seriously, your little self-deprecating antics ceased to be amusing a LONG time ago.

You still haven’t answered my question; Favorite game?

Comment by Kid_Outhouse on 2008-11-16 05:08:39 | Reply

there was nothing “self-deprecating” whatsoever in my post… but your misnomers don’t surprise me, I’m already fully aware of what a dimwit you are.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-16 18:31:11 | Reply

No I’m pretty sure I used the right word just for you. maybe lonely too?

Comment by mu on 2008-11-16 21:45:36 | Reply

self deprecation is when you talk smack about yourself dude.

shit shack certainly doesn’t have time for that, with the rest of the world squarely in his sights.

not dissin, just sayin.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-17 00:33:57 | Reply

Read between the lines, what does his negligent, if sometimes unholy obsessive nitpicky-ness really say about his own personality.

I remember GTA4, I loved the game, a lot of us did, and true, it wasn’t perfect but the way he made it sound is if the developers should’ve paid us to play it.

Halo 3, again, certianly not the best game out, probably not even that great, but it struck a chord for the Multiplayer frag junkies that play it. I played H3 a lot, despite it’s problems, it still didn’t deter me from some fun.

He, other hand, makes it sound like playing any game besides a perfect game is akin to getting stitches through his eyes. For which he has failed repeatedly to mention what he considers a good game. I’d like to know so I can tell what he’s judging his unbalanced criteria on.

He may not say it directly, but his unnervingly obsessive and negative criteria would say something about his personality.

Remember, he did say reading one’s comment gave him cancer.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-17 02:05:23 | Reply

acting like a jerk, is not self-deprecation.

or that’s my understanding.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-17 04:06:29 | Reply

I think he means that, in a larger sense, Outhouse is causing everyone to be annoyed with his pointlessness and is revealing that he’s got some sort of inferiority complex. And that’s how his posts are self-deprecating. Not purposefully so, but they wind up being so anyway.

Comment by 7ru7h564 on 2008-11-17 08:08:21 | Reply

I think he’s a moron

Comment by mu on 2008-11-17 17:39:34 | Reply

veritas. i know what he is SAYING.

it is just incorrect usage of the term, and i thought i would try to help.

i think he is adding a layer to self-deprecation that is not applicable. correct me if i am wrong.

yes he is showing us that he is an ass, no he is not self-deprecating.

i believe.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-17 23:48:05 | Reply

Well for all intents and purposes, what would be an appropriate word?

I’ve noticed that he never replies to my comments when I ask him a difficult question, or accuse him of being a maladjusted in some way.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-18 07:07:18 | Reply


Comment by 7ru7h564 on 2008-11-18 10:56:37 | Reply

AssHOLE to be correct, get off this site NOBODY CEARLY likes you here, H34RT 4TT4CK.

Go be a prick some where else!!

Comment by 7ru7h564 on 2008-11-18 10:58:08 | Reply

Like seriously are you really that stuck up? prick?

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-18 13:26:07 | Reply

Hurray for the moron train, seems like all the idiots got off and started coming to this site.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-18 20:06:45 | Reply

how about “ass-troll.”

shit shack you cool with that?

we’ll all call you ass-troll from now on, and you just continue to play the role, for as long as you like.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-18 22:39:52 | Reply

This thread has gone in a very amusing direction.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-18 23:31:53 | Reply

you wouldn’t think it would be a slow week, with the explosion of goodies, but hey, gotta fill the void somehow.

Comment by gaz-danawalker on 2008-11-17 10:50:26 | Reply

im sorry but epic are spot on when it comes to updates n patches n shit. gears 1 had numerous updates regarding glitches and other problems. they sorted and looked at everyones complaints.
gears2 isnt broken. just a wee snag in the lobby system. i dont think itl be long until they fix it or even better change it.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-11-15 15:51:46 | Reply

I doubt there has ever been a single online product that functioned 100% correctly the day it was released.

No worries. The multiplayer issues just give you time and encouragement to wrap up your single player / coop experiences before sinking months into Multiplayer.

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-15 22:10:10 | Reply

It is sad though…
The more graphically involved games get, the more glitches there are bound to be.
It’s no one’s fault, really, there is just too much to test out.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-11-16 02:22:46 | Reply

I doubt there have ever been any that functioned 100% either, well for Xbox anyways.

Comment by GG on 2008-11-15 15:59:22 | Reply

sadly these issuse have kept me from playing gears 2 online, i hope they sort this crap out soon

Comment by ? on 2008-11-15 17:05:33 | Reply

check out the gears fanboys

Comment by Jamzy No 2 on 2008-11-15 17:13:00 | Reply

I’ve only had this problem if I’m not in a full party. If there is five of us going in it’s usually very quick.

Comment by Kate Loire on 2008-11-17 12:31:22 | Reply

Yeah thats true. With 4 of us it can take up to ten minutes, with 5 it takes instants.

Comment by Hmmmm on 2008-11-15 17:15:30 | Reply

” It’s not the game itself, its the coding”
Now take a minute to think about the utter stupidity of that sentance.

Yeah, what he meant was there is nothing wrong with the game as a game, the campaign is fine,multiplayer, if there wasnt this issue of finding games, would also be fine, theres something wrong with some coding that stops some people from getting games. Myself, i’ve not had any trouble getting games. My only issue is laggy games. But thats peoples connections.

Oh and Much love Cage for adding links to my thread in here ;)

Comment by mass9 on 2008-11-15 17:33:02 | Reply

Cage = Francois?

now I know, and knowing is half the battle.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-16 04:40:58 | Reply

g.i. joooooe

Who the he() are these people waiting 10 minutes to an “hour” to play a match? The game is good but not that good…

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-15 22:41:23 | Reply

OH yeah it is ;)

There will always be problems with a game, your negative responses act like they never tested it. I guarantee they tested it, probably a problem with the huge amount of server activity, even though it was expected. I think it encourages you to get a team of 5 and stop being loaners, I have never waited more than 10 seconds when have a full team of 5.

Gain some friends and play some hoard until they fix the few glitches that exist. Its an absolutely amazing game and is more fun than anything else online. Lets all remember you easily waited 5-15 min for a game in gears 1 with no match making. I love the 10 seconds of waiting with a full party. Think about it kids.

Comment by matt on 2008-11-16 03:01:37 | Reply

Having to back out and find a new game after every game instead of retaining players and cycling maps = stupid.

Shotgun efficiency even at close range = sucks.

Waiting forever for a match = sucks.

Lack of a quit option (I understand some people quit and it’s frustrating, but in a laggy game, unfair game, uneven teams, etc. a quit button = necessary). This game has bots, fill in dropped players with bots.

I agree. You should be able to team up.

Shotgun is too weak to be a shotgun. It doesn’t have to be as powerful as in Gears 1, but it doesn’t have to be as weak as it is now either.

The waiting does suck but it hasn’t been too bad for me. It was bad that Saturday after the game came out though which I guess was due to everyone trying to play it online that day. IDK…

There should be a quit option ofcourse. I was playing Horde with Lag earlier and a couple of guys wanted to leave and start over but didn’t because of the no team up option. I am not sure about the Bots though. I mean, then you will have the lossing team B*tch if you when with a Bot on your squad and say it doesn’t really count as a win…

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-16 11:45:43 | Reply

Dude it’s not weaker, it just has less accuracy.
You have to aim now instead of blindfire, I know it seems lame, but when you get used to it, it’s really easy.

I generally aim for the head/chest when I am shooting, even with the shotgun. I ONLY blindfire when I am taking cover trying to heal for a sec. Still, the shotgun is definitely weaker than in Gears 1. Again, I am not saying that it should kill an enemy with one or two shots, but it shouldn’t take so long to down/kill a guy with such a weapon either.

“Cage = Francois?

now I know, and knowing is half the battle.

LOL! I see you listen to the majors podcast too Mass!

Comment by mass9 on 2008-11-17 01:50:13 | Reply

never lsitened to a single one of Major’s podcasts. But I watched hours on endless hours of GI Joe as a kid.

Comment by illuminati IV on 2008-11-16 06:34:24 | Reply

There is so much they need to fix already. I agree with kid they sold us a broken game. How can i put half a clip of a lancer into a guys chest and he can run through and chainsaw me. That makes since. I just got done waiting for 45 minutes for a match. But hopefully they dont wait as long to patch like they did with gears 1

Comment by Tristan on 2008-11-16 09:40:52 | Reply

I have been banned from the Gears of War forums for demanding a fix and pointing out how other games have a better online system. This was a product that would have been forgivable upon the release of the xbox 360, but not now.

Comment by Mike on 2008-11-16 19:56:26 | Reply

thanks alot epic u fucking sack of shit! i wasted 80$ for this sack of shit and for what campaign no i wanted to fcking play multiplayer i have been waiting TO MOTHER FUCKING HOURS TO FIND ONE GOD DAMN MATCH! THANKS ALOT EPIC!

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-11-16 20:10:10 | Reply

I strongly recommend professional psychiatry at this stage. Even amateur psychiatry would be a start…

Comment by +1 on 2008-11-16 20:33:47 | Reply


Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-16 23:09:29 | Reply

2 hours? That’s dedication. Shows how good the game really is.

Comment by bil on 2008-11-16 21:29:07 | Reply

It’ll get tweaked. The longest I’ve had to wait is 3 minutes. Otherwise throw your buddies together and play horde if it’s that irritating, or get ten friends together and start the match. It ONLY affects quick play jumping into random games from what I see when I play.

This is THE best game out, hands down, whether the haters talk or not, it is absolutely amazing. Soooo much to do, and sooooo many options. Nothing can touch it.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-16 22:00:06 | Reply

can it be confirmed if delays are only being experienced by people with strict NAT, or is more random?

somebody having trouble, go to your system blade, network menu, and do an xbox live test. then, check and see if you have “open” “moderate” or “strict” NAT.

that shit is important, and can improve the performance of live like night and day.

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-16 23:10:42 | Reply

People with Strict NAT will always get fucked.
I had a strict NAT up until this game came out, then I had to port forward to get and Open NAT…
It’s not hard either, it’s really worth it to just fix it.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-17 02:07:00 | Reply

strict NAT fucks shit up for others too, so everyone should straighten their shit out.

it is not hard, and takes all of ten minutes to learn and do.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-17 04:08:48 | Reply

I’ll have to wait until I get home to play, then. I’m at school and using Live when I’m not supposed to be (hurray for wireless bridging), so I’m stuck with strict NAT. Unless someone wants to help me change the settings for the router. :P

Comment by mu on 2008-11-17 17:46:42 | Reply

what is your router make/model?
if you need help, setup a forum thread, and i will hop in and try to get you straight.

it is pretty easy though.

basically set your 360 on automatic network setup, and then take the 360’s MAC address and assign that MAC address a static IP address in your router’s dhcp config.

then, put that ip address in the dmz, OR

alternatively, you can forward ports:

UDP 88
UDP 3074
TCP 3074 to the 360’s ip address.

port 2074 udp had to be open for cod3 to work properly, due to an error, but i believe they have probably fixed it by now.

good luck, and let me know here if you need more help.

p.s. i personally have my 360 in the dmz, and feel that is the best spot for it, so if it is available, i recommend using it.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-17 18:50:11 | Reply

It’s not the port forwarding I need help with… it’s the breaking into the port part. =P I don’t have the password for it, nor do I know the IP address to access it.

I’m not an especially networking-savvy person, haha.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-17 22:37:33 | Reply

find out the make and model of your router.
look up the ip address to access the config page.
it will be something like


type that number in your browser’s address bar.

a config page should come up.

there will be a DEFAULT user name and password for each router. maybe


something like that. try it. if it works, just don’t screw anything up. if it doesn’t, contact your network admin., if he is cool.

do you bring your 360 in, or do they have one there?

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-18 04:41:32 | Reply

I brought mine here. Normally people can’t connect, but because of my sweet living situation this year, we have wireless internet (coming from somewhere…). So I use a wireless bridge to connect.

The next time an RA comes through I’ll see if I can’t find out where the router is.

Comment by mu on 2008-11-18 06:20:08 | Reply

doesn’t matter where the router is physically. although maybe that is the only way to find out what make/model it is.

you might want to try

“″ in your browser address bar, and see if the config page pops up.

“″ is also a likely candidate.

slash on in there. although i bet they have changed their default password, which would make port forwarding impossible.

but, anyway, good luck!

Comment by Veritas on 2008-11-18 07:09:43 | Reply

Ahh, I tried those with no luck when I read your earlier post.

I also tried ping -r 1 www.blahblah in the command prompt and got no response on all four tries. :(

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-19 00:14:06 | Reply

Sometimes the password is simply the name of your ISP.
Mine was, I found out after a quick phone call =P

Comment by batatas on 2008-11-17 01:44:35 | Reply

I hate how you cannot bring on a guest without forming your own party. That really sucks!

Comment by Symbiot on 2008-11-17 16:54:00 | Reply

Good to know I’m not the only one having problems with this. Open Nat and I wait anywhere from 1 minute to half an hour.
I usually wait 15 minutes or so to get into a game, but it’s significantly reduced if I have a full party.

Comment by teabag on 2008-11-17 20:33:31 | Reply

fuck u

Comment by teabag on 2008-11-17 20:35:22 | Reply

me two

Comment by unleash on 2008-11-18 11:34:04 | Reply

Me too, Gears1 was pretty quick and I’ve never had an issue with others but, Gears2 seems very random, some times its fairly quick other times I just give up!

Already i’ve seen a major difference in matchmaking, no patch yet either, but i’ve played a fair few games alone lately, and i’m never waiting longer than 2 minutes for a game.
I really don’t get this whole shotgun power bollocks, yes its not AS powerful as the first, but it still does the job, 1 shot kills from the hip are a lot less likely now but thats one of the things Epic wanted, a nice shot or two to the chest, one nice one to the head still does it though, UNLESS the game is laggy, laggy games seem to fuck up the shotgun more than any other weapon on the game power wise.

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-11-19 00:16:33 | Reply

It’s random guys.
Especially in a party of 5, if you don’t find a match within 5 seconds, quit out and restart.
In a party of 5 it should be instant.

Comment by Andy on 2008-11-19 09:23:08 | Reply

matchmaking trouble or not. Until its fixed, I enjoy cod5 :)

Comment by x El Scorpio x on 2008-11-25 22:40:51 | Reply

I was wondering whether I’m the only one having this problem. I tried to get some Gears 2 online play over the weekend and ended up waiting for quite a while (but not an hour). If there are so many people playing, why’s it take so long?

I trust Epic will sort out the issue soon enough though

Comment by mu on 2008-11-26 02:33:25 | Reply

frm what i have read, matchmaking struggles with parties of 1 and 4.

try getting one more in your party if you are playing alone, or a fifth if you have 4.

i hope this helps, it is second hand info i thought i’d pass along.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-26 06:30:48 | Reply

So I’m playing through GoW2 which I brought yesterday and I have to say I do like it a lot. The gameplay is always fresh, the visuals are amazing (the underground scenes really got me) and the storyline runs pretty deep. I’m almost finished with the game but considering that I brought it yesterday, I can’t say I’m disappointed that it’s so short because it didn’t feel like it to me.

I never get tired of the firefights either, I just love the variety in enviroment, enemies and the situation with which you’re in. I’m enjoying the campaign so much more than I ever did with the first one.

What I don’t like is that months prior to the release, Epic released a Character dossier of new people to the Delta team, “Tai, Dizzy, and Carmine,” all of whom died in some cruel fashion or another. I’d have wanted them to be a staple character in the game, like Hoffman.

I haven’t really touched on Multiplayer just yet but I do like how they offer a training grounds and offline matches between bots. Which is also nice since some of the Achievements are tied into a collective of Campaign and Multiplayer kills. So whenever you kill a grub, the game tallies it towards “Seriously 2.0″ regardless of what mode you’re in.

… I should submit my own page review of the game to the site.

Comment by fieldy409 on 2008-11-29 00:09:08 | Reply

I really hope they patch in the ability to search for a good connection. most of us aussies dont even play gow matchmaking now. We used to have a community trick where we would search for 9/9 warzone and you would find aussie host games…but now theres nothing for us but lag.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-11-29 04:23:28 | Reply

You’re not the only one. I tried playing Co-op, no luck. Multi; limited and then cut short. I’m waiting for the patch too.

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