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E3 09: Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott

Only recently announced at E3 a few days ago, Left 4 Dead 2 is already causing a stir amongst fans who feel let down by Valve, the development team behind the original and the upcoming sequel. A group of boycotters claim that this sequel is nothing more than a money grabbing opportunity through the success of the original Left 4 Dead game released only 6 months ago.

L4D2 Boycott

The group known as ‘L4D2 Boycott (NO-L4D2)’ have set up a protest on the Valve Steam-Software social network system to bring awareness to Valve’s False Promises which the group have also highlighted their issues:

  • Significant content for L4D1 was promised, and never delivered.
  • Valve put little faith in L4D1 since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release.
  • The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D1 will decimate the community for both games.
  • The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes.
  • The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far.
  • L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1’s visual aesthetic.
  • The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome.
  • L4D2’s release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D1 content, even compared to before.
  • The community has lost faith in Valve’s former reputation for commitment to their games post-release.

The group currently has almost 4500 members and is expecting to increase these numbers as a protest against not only the lack of content promised for the original, but the quick release of the sequel. Do you think this group are justified in their angry claims at Valve, or should they move on and look forward to the sequel due out Nov 17th, which happens to be a year on from the original ‘Left 4 Dead’ release anyway?

Source: L4D2Boycott

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Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2009-06-04 15:53:15 | Reply

I think they have every right to be pissed, I mean they have raised some good points.

Yeah, and some fucking ridiculous ones:
“The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far.” You have seen a couple of flashes so far…seriously… chill
“L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1’s visual aesthetic.”Again, not seen enough to say that, maybe there is a day campaign, it maybe an okay change..
” The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome.” Oh fucking come on, it is not upto you what music goes into a game, developers put it in, you either like it or you don’t, damn.

The other points i have to say i agree with, but those i just pointed out, wow…

Comment by Veritas on 2009-06-04 19:47:46 | Reply

I agree, those three in particular are pants-on-head retarded.

(Thanks, Yahtzee.)

Am i being compared to the mighty Yahtzee? Nice!

Comment by Yo Dawg on 2009-07-06 18:51:38 | Reply

No. He was thanking Yahtzee for the phrase “pants-on-head retarded.”

Do they have a point? Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. I can see why they would feel like that.

Will a boycott have any effect? No, unless they can get a huge following.

Comment by TheElementFire on 2009-06-04 16:11:29 | Reply

As someone who was looking to pick up L4D1, I will certainly delay my purchase until L4D2 comes out.

Comment by Patrick on 2009-06-04 18:18:17 | Reply

Of course these people have a right to be pissed off. I am and will be joining their group as soon as I get home. Left 4 Dead is an outstanding but incomplete game. It built an enormous following greatly built on its POTENTIAL. People like me shelled out $50.00 for an unfinished product based almost exclusively on Valve’s reputation for supporting its products and the quality which they are renowned for. This is a HUGE disappointment and comes off as a cash grab. The modding community who has been working on this game since it went gold largely incomplete with nothing more than caveman tools just had the beta version of the SDK released 2 weeks ago! They have to be beside themselves. This is a betrayal of the community that Valve has built around them. Add to it the fact that this was a guarded secret unleashed on the community at E3 and it is easy to see why so many are angry. FU Valve.

Comment by Wardieboy on 2009-06-04 22:24:59 | Reply

Quality - I’ll be able tp pick up a copy of the original for £2.99 in the next few months

^ LOL :) - Im deffo getting this too but at the right price…

Comment by stumpa on 2009-06-05 20:00:16 | Reply

l4d 1 good game

Comment by Ashley on 2009-06-05 00:10:28 | Reply

I think this whole thing is ridiculous. I’m a huge fan of the game and I was disappointed with only four levels but I think I really have gotten my money’s worth in terms of game playing time.
I don’t think the points this group has made have much validity. The fact that it’s going to be during the day just decimates the entire game? C’mon, really. And I have never heard anyone complain about the horde music… ever.
I cannot believe that people would be pissed off that there’s going to be a sequel to one of the most fun multiplayer games in the last year. Really, Boo hoo. I’m still buying L4D2 and maybe even multiple copies to make up for all the cry babies out there.

Comment by Takumi on 2009-06-05 12:25:34 | Reply

I didn’t like the first l4d, which is a shame because half life is amazing.

Comment by PastorPooPoo on 2009-06-05 20:43:51 | Reply

Oh my god. Who ever wasn’t satisfied with L4D1 doesn’t know about replay value, multiplayer online, or over all quality.

Valve gave us great updates and expansions in a timely fashion. They bent over backwards to make the game more fair for new players and satisfying adjustments to keep old players happy.

In game design they kept it simple while maintaining great graphics and over all awesome replay value. As far as campaigns available there are five maps for each of the four campaigns. Each one is unique and large enough to spend hours exploring if the player so chooses. The difficulty settings make for some of the toughest gaming available for solo players as well as groups in multiplayer.

In comparison to other games in the top ten best sellers of the last year there is nothing like it. The AI is incredible on Expert. The graphics and music are superb and I will be buying the next one that comes out.

Valve has taken great care of its customers. They kept thier promises. They gave us FREE expansions which is unheard of in the microsoft world especially when considering it improved the over all quality of the game. As a full time competitive player of L4D I feel they have catered to 90% of my wishes and Im completely satisfied with Valve over all.

Halo 3 is the most popular game on XBOX 360 and its the third of its kind. Call of duty has had what, 4 or 5 titles now? All the great games have sequels that are all improvements on the original. Now consider that you have payed for all the updates/expansions for those games in microsoft points and relate that to the FREE update/expansion for L4D then ADD to it that it was available in the first six months the game was out. Thats awesome.

I dont think any other game had 21 playable maps and 3 different game variants available in the first six months like L4D did.

I’ll be buying three L4D2’s in November because I know quality AND quantity and I enjoy sharing the fun with my friends. L4D is consistently the funnest game I have ever played in my 28 years of gaming.

This boycott is a joke. Valve ROCKS and thanks for ALL the hard work they do for thier players in such a short amount of time. Kids nowadays are just spoiled I guess and I have no idea why because no other Game company does more for thier fans than Valve does.

PooPoo out.

Comment by Jamzy No 2 on 2009-06-07 00:11:54 | Reply

4 playable maps, that they split up into diffrent sections is not the same thing. Halo had a full story in coop (like left 4 dead) plus 1 other coop game mode at launch. they also had a proper online multiplayer, not just the single player reworked.

that said i do agree left 4 dead is an awesome game well worth the money, but i don’t agree with how you think it has more maps and modes then other games, because it dosn’t.

Comment by matt on 2009-06-05 22:18:05 | Reply

first off there are more peopel upsetby the fact atht l4d feels like a beta its not finished its not right there are amazing amounts of folts and glitchs and problems not any were near enuff content and needs more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQWylFmqnwM

that is exaculy the problems he promised us things we will never get and seems they never played for it . rather used l4d as a money making plan to make the REAL game l4d2…..

Comment by fieldy409 on 2009-06-06 01:51:30 | Reply

They said there was going to be one day level. The whole game isnt going to be daytime! This boycott is just a bunch of bitchy gamers who are never satisfied. Their only legitimate point is that there will be less people playing left 4 dead when l4d 2 comes out.

Comment by Jamzy No 2 on 2009-06-07 00:15:45 | Reply

people are only complaining because of Valves past reputation, just because they are good to thier customers dodn’t mean they have to be. you should just be happy with the game you have.

also, Valve have actulley said they plan on releasing more content before the 2nd game comes out. so people chill out.

That group now have over 14,000 members!! but I like the Hitler vid below… very funny…

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2009-06-08 05:51:29 | Reply

“I’ve been beta testing this for 7 months since it’s release.”

Hahahahaha!

I got the feeling it wasn’t a finished game, seriously. I’m halfsies on satisfaction with the game.

I liked the Duke Nukem Forever references! :)

Comment by PastorPooPoo on 2009-06-10 17:27:56 | Reply

“I even have a Valve tattoed on my head!!” lmfao

Comment by rossthefrogboy on 2009-07-06 23:24:26 | Reply

What they should do is simply include all the campaigns and characters from left 4 dead 1 in left 4 dead 2, that way, people couldn’t be pissy about it “dividing the community”. They would treat the daylight and new campaigns like an expansion. Which is really all it is, I mean come on, the game’s nearly identical. And they are both built on Source, right?

Comment by lordoftheives on 2009-07-07 05:47:18 | Reply

ive played the original l4d, but i dont own it. so i am actually pretty excited for l4d2, although i can see where it makes ppl upset. you know, the ppl that actually bought the game.

Comment by Atoma on 2009-07-07 06:12:18 | Reply

* Significant content for L4D1 was promised, and never delivered.

May I see the crystal ball that this boycott seems to have at it’s disposal? It hasn’t been released yet, by no means does this mean it won’t be.

* Valve put little faith in L4D1 since they almost certainly started working on L4D2 right after release.

Valve had a commercial success on their hands and started working on another one. For shame Valve, you aren’t allowed to act like a company that’s out to make the most money possible. Oh no, you have to pander to every whiny gamer who has a complaint about anything.

* The fact that L4D2 is nearly identical to L4D1 will decimate the community for both games.

It’ll come down to personal preference if they are identical. I can’t see either one being hated enough to where there would be to small a community to play it.

* The announced date is not nearly enough time to polish content or make significant gameplay changes.

What, pray tell, significant changes would everyone be happy with? There isn’t any major change that would please everyone. Also, L4D is a very simple game, I doubt Valve would mess with that anyway so being released later wouldn’t change anything.

* The new character designs seem bland and unappealing so far.

As has been stated before, the quick flashes of character seem bland and unappealing? The L4D1 cast wasn’t exactly an ocean of depth either, a collection of archetypes. This is a silly argument to make.

* L4D2 is too bright to fit in with L4D1’s visual aesthetic.

Again, let’s see this crystal ball that shows every level from L4D2. What has been seen so far has been bright, that doesn’t mean the rest will be bright.

* The fiddle-based horde music is extremely disliked, though the differently orchestrated music is otherwise welcome.

This is entirely personal preference, some people will like it, some won’t. It’s a silly thing to get up in arms about.

* L4D2’s release will result in a drop in quality and frequency for L4D1 content, even compared to before.

I’m seeing a trend for making assumptions about the future with little hard evidence to support them. That may happen or it may not, time will tell and getting angry over it now is pointless.

* The community has lost faith in Valve’s former reputation for commitment to their games post-release.

Crystal ball, I want to see it because it seems to allow these people to see the future in striking detail. It’s impossible to say that Valve won’t still release things for L4D1. They might stop, but again getting angry over it now is baseless whining by people who don’t want to pay for a game they know they’ll like.

My only problem with L4D2 is that is wasn’t called Left 2 Die like it should have been. I find is pointless to get up in arms over the trailer that’s been released and make baseless claims about the future. Valve has the potential to mess up but I don’t think they will. A boycott is silly.

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