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Microsoft being sued over Xbox Live

During 1991, two friends named Peter Hochstein and Jeffrey Tenenbaum came up with the idea of somehow communicating live whilst playing the same game in seperate locations. Feeling strongly about the idea, they patented the technology idea for it in 1994. Some considerable time later in 2002, Microsoft released Xbox Live which allowed gamers to communicate live whilst playing the same game in seperate locations - you see where this is heading?

Sony had also implented the technology when the Playstation 2 first went live online, but in 2004, Hochstein, Tenenbaum and Harold Milton, Jr. (an assignee of the patent) brought a patent infringement suit against both Microsoft and Sony alleging that the voice and data communications online used in their gaming systems infringed on the patent claims. The men had sought a permanent injunction and wanted treble damages. Sony settled its suit in April 2009, leaving Microsoft as the only remaining defendant.

The original patent by Hochstein & Tenenbaum lays a claim that communication data & game control data can be transmitted via the same game communication circuits from using a local video game - however, Microsoft wanted the claim to be construed to mean that the ‘video game communications circuit’ and its associated components were separate and distinct from the video game computer to which the circuit is attached. Whilst the sytem of playing a game and communication over a live network is what the original patent was for, Xbox Live differs in the fact that is does not transmit voice data and game data in the same way that the original patent had claimed. Microsoft has argued that their sevice is a seperate circuit which simply connects to the local video game and not from the local video game.

In May, the special court master to whom the matter was referred issued his report and recommendations, denying Microsoft’s proposed limiting construction. Instead, he construed “video game communication circuit” to mean “a circuit operatively associated with a local video game and at least one remote video game without limitation as to such circuit’s physical location or attachment to the local video game.” Microsoft objected to the master’s recommendations, but the court granted plaintiffs’ motion to adopt the recommendation anyway, dealing Microsoft a blow right before trial.

Also Hochstein & Tenenbaum have filed complaints against both Microsoft & Sony for the same reasons as above, but this time for using Live communication in the Xbox 360 & Playstation 3 consoles since their original infringement was against last-gen consoles!

Source: PatentArcade

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So why aren’t they suing services like Ventrilo or Xfire, which do the same thing?

It’s just two guys looking to make a buck. Here’s hoping it’s not a trial by jury, because juries consist of quite possibly what are the stupidest people in the country.

Comment by PC4EVER on 2009-07-02 08:51:04 | Reply

just like x360 owners are the stupidest people in the world?

Comment by The_Glovner on 2009-07-02 08:58:56 | Reply

Wow, thats a sweeping statement.

Maybe it’s just like you are the mankiest mangy cunt in the world?

Comment by stumpa on 2009-07-02 21:18:08 | Reply

wasting your time on a 360 website but you don’t own one you must be a rocket scientist

Comment by Fanappy on 2009-07-02 11:54:33 | Reply

Lol Glad to see you’re still about Glovner ;) Yeah when a claim comes out like this more than 5 years after the system is around it tend not to be real! Just look how quickly say the dual shock issue was raised within a year M$ paid up and Sony protracted the whole saga for ages :p

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2009-07-02 12:35:20 | Reply

So wait, did those guys even invent anything? Or did they patent an IDEA? If they patented an IDEA and they win this suit, I’m about to carry my ass to the patent’s office with a whole list of IDEAS.

I want to know, maybe I’m wrong, maybe it’s not mentioned in this article, did those guys actually make any thing? Invent anything?

They patented only the idea, but when you patent something - it’s done per country, so unless they patented this worldwide it doesn’t really hold up on a global scale unless they patented it in every country!

If this is yet to be patented in Africa - then now is the right time to do so. Also don’t forget that their patented idea gave them a payoff by Sony!!

Things like this clearly illustrates why patents are a bad idea in general, and especially when it comes to electronic patents.

Good thing the Swedish Pirate Party got elected into the European Parliament so things like this can be worked against on a political level.

I agree to a point - I think if you are not able to produce/create or make the idea a reality within a period of time (say 10yrs max) then the patent does not not stand for much, if these two guys had never even so much as tried to make their idea a reality then fuck em - greedy bastards…

Comment by Wardieboy on 2009-07-03 19:19:58 | Reply

does anyone know if a patent has been filed for the activity of wanking in the uk? If not i’m off to patent it in the morning, all my friends are at it all the time.

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