Say what?

SEND ME $4.99 AND I WILL SEND U AN OFFICIAL #1 OBLIVIAN PLAYER CERTIFICATE……………………………….I CANT BELIEVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAY FOR THIS STUFF

So, it’s $2.50 for some armor for your horse. Interesting use of marketplace. That’s got to be like a 99.999999999% profit.

It’s two and half dollars, many of you probably spend more than that for your morning cup of coffee and what do you get? You get to piss it out later in the day. Atleast with this downloadable content you aren’t pissing your money away.

I DONT DRINK COFFEE

no joke from xbox.com to major nelson blog this is getting bethseda burned. id say 95% of people are not happy with the price. they general consensus from what ive read is people would pay about 100 credits for it at most, if not 50. 1up.com said it was bethsedas choice to set the price and major nelson also comfirmed that MS did not decide that price. and for the record the pc download is 1.99, which would be about 150 credits.

this is the worst exploitation of xbox live to date. bethesda and microsoft are only proving that if we are not careful about what we pay for on the marketplace, we will be paying for all that crap we should be getting for free. i implore you all out there… DO NOT PAY for this crap… please. you will be doing the marketplace a disservice. i would pay $2.50 for a new track in a racing game, or a new level or something, but armor??? they want real money for fake armor??? bite me.

– mu

What? You pay $49 to drive fake cars in PGR? WHO WOULD DO THAT?

Oh, that’s right…Everyone.

The more I think about it the more I think that both sides of the argument are correct. Bethesda priced this a little high for what it is, but it is still cheap. They just need to move the haggle slider a little to the left and try again, and hope our disposition doesn’t drop too low.

Yes please, No one buy this….. Teach them a lesson. This is worth 10-25 cents max. Thats it.
This is a 1 to 2 credit item, if there ever was a 1 credit item this is it. They should change the structure then, whats the point of having an inflated electronic dollar?

Totally outrageous. Any fool that buys this should be shot in the head.

Why the outrage? This is what they said they were going to do this with xbox live. I’m happy they’re finally acting on their promises. People pay $20-$30 for PC expansion packs that sometimes just add a dungeon and a chacter set. Hopefully soon we’ll have xbox live-wide clan setups, more downloadables for games and more varied content.

A horrible meal at McDonalds that you shit out at the end of the day = $5.00
Horse armor that adds to an already amazing, immersive game = $2.50

Ask yourself which is worth buying?

If you let them charge 2 dollars for this, what would they charge for added quests and or dungeons if there was such an addon?? 20 bucks? 30??

I love how rich people have no concept of the value of a dollar.

Food = Life

Electronic Armor that should have already been in your game = Worthless

Just use the crappy programmed gold glitch to buy a new horse whenever you want. Why would you pay another 2 bucks for something that should have already been in your 70 dollar game!!!

You guys are as stupid as the people who said they would pay for a Call of Duty 2 patch!!!!!

I’m going to have to agree with Xploited13.

I spend five dollars on lunch every day.

I’d be more than willing to give up just half of that for something that lasts (theoretically) forever.

the horse armour doesnt enhance your game though. if anything it makes it easier. AT LEAST MAKE IT THE SAME PRICE AS THE PC VERSIONS DOWNLOAD. that makes it about 150 credits. How come we have to pay more for the exact same thing just because we are playing the xbox version?

I didn’t buy it because ACPenguinX is a broke mofo. 350 MP to my name

“They just need to move the haggle slider a little to the left and try again, and hope our disposition doesn’t drop too low.”

If we only had a points system like Joystiq…

“I’d be more than willing to give up just half of that for something that lasts (theoretically) forever.”

I don’t mind spending money on things that last forever. However, someone already made the comparison to PGR3 costing $49 to drive some fake cars around. That’s $49 to cover 3 years of work from over 50 fulltime developers. Quick calculation shows that those 150 man years multiplied by (2/49) allows $2 to cover about 6 man years of work assuming everyone buys it. Assuming only 1 out of 6 Oblivion players is interested (which is a low estimate) this Horse Armor took about 1 year to develop. Somehow, I don’t believe that, therefore this price is outrageous and I’m not buying it.

As Zahadoom points out, this pricing has nothing to do with the intrinsic value of money. For 50 cent I would be downloading right now.

Curry, I’m not sure how you’re trying to compare the development cycle of PGR3 to Oblivion’s Horse armor. But I’m not going to argue about the value of this micro-transaction.

To Aries, it is likely that we pay an extra 50 cents for the Horse Armor due to the fact that Bethesda has to pay Microsoft to certify the download and distribute it through Marketplace. Whereas on the PC, Bethesda can place it anywhere they would like, even on their own website for free.

i want to shout my support out to zahadoom, and encourage everyone i can NOT to buy this…

the question is was there significant extra work involved in releasing this armor, and the answer is no. this should have been included, or it should be free. if we buy this, things that should be included are going to be left out of games purposely so they can charge us for them AGAIN after we have payed.

screw that. we all know that is not ok. please, do NOT buy this. PLEASE!

– mu

“I’m not sure how you’re trying to compare the development cycle of PGR3 to Oblivion’s Horse armor. ”

The price of a product should, if multiplied by its expected sales, have some sort of realistic relationship to the cost of manufacturing the item.

Which holds true in this case even, I might add, since the expected sales are quite probably 1/5th or less than if they’d have put a realistic 50 cent pricetag on it.

Curry, that doesn’t seem to make much sense. The $60 that I spent on Oblivion is not paying for a product that is the same quality or even had the same development cycle as say a game like NHL 2K6.

curry,

what are you smoking, seriously…
what are their “manufacturing costs” for this horse armor, and what is the “realistic relationship” this has with the price?

and i have to say a fifty cents is still a huge slap in the face for something like this, not a realistic pricetag.

why wasn’t this armor included in the game. there is one reason, to see how many stupid stupid people there are out there. please curry, stay off their list!

– mu

I can think of many more things that people spend money on that seems wasteful. Like a $20 plastic slab. A.k.a. faceplates. Yes, you get to hold it in your hand, but in the end it is still a big piece of plastic that you paid $20 for. And by the way, it doesn’t add anything to the gaming experience, like this would.

Curry, that doesn’t seem to make much sense.

It’s basic economics though. And publishers do use “egalized” prices to compensate crap sellers with top titles. The official $60 price point, when multiplied with resulting sales of a year’s titles, should bring up a larger figure than the total development cost of all games released that year, including added costs for management/PR overhead and licensing. A publisher makes profit if this statement holds true

what are you smoking, seriously…
what are their “manufacturing costs” for this horse armor, and what is the “realistic relationship” this has with the price?

Ofcourse there are manufacturing costs? A 3D modeler has to design it. A graphic artist has to make textures. An animator has to make sure it moves realistically on the horse. A programmer has to make sure the game can load it. A tester has to assure the game does load it and uses it correctly. All in all, even a small expansion like this would involve at the very least a few days of work from 3 employees. It’s not unfair to ask money, and “it should’ve been in there from the beginning” is no argument, since it could be used for every expansion pack released since 1980.

Thing is, it’s not a part of the base game. You paid $60 for a game without horse armor. Bethesda offers extra horse armor they had someone make specifically. Who also wants a paycheck at the end of the month. Hence you pay.

To compare, we do pay for working games that incorporate the features promised on the back of the box. If a game doesn’t include those features, we are entitled to a free upgrade, and as such patches are free.

If you can point me to the press release, box print or manual page where Bethesda says Oblivion has horse armors, I will agree that this download should’ve been free. Otherwise, I have to say that a small compensation for development costs, like 50 cents or perhaps even a dollar, would be fine price for a completely optional addition on top of an already great game, which you can perfectly well choose not to buy if you don’t think it’s worth its price.

I also think it’s bogus that they charge for this type of thing. But if you don’t want it, don’t get it I guess. I’m not too worried about NOT having the Horse Armor.

“If you can point me to the press release, box print or manual page where Bethesda says Oblivion has horse armors, I will agree that this download should’ve been free.”

OXM’s preview had an inset paragraph about future downloads, and that the only one confirmed was horse armor.

“Armor-clad, of course. Keep nasty NPCs from killing you horse with the Pain-GuardTM Horse Armor pack…”

I see that typo now, but I think the post is funnier if I don’t fix it.