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Nipplegate: new Tomb Raider delayed in US

Janet may have had her own Nipplegate, now Tomb Raider: Legend publisher Eidos joins the fray. The game’s US release date of April 11th has been moved back after someone had posted textures of the game to a forum clearly showing nipples on a bare breast.

The game contains a chapter set in Tokyo, where several women are dancing in the distance. To keep it simple for the animators they had initially modeled all the women naked, so they could simply drape different dresses around them later. Why the breasts were there complete with nipples initially I don’t want to know, but the funny thing is that the developers did their work right: in the final version of the game that part of the texture is not even mapped to any points in the meshes. Translation for the less-technical people is that it is beyond impossible to see the breast in-game, you can only see it when you are ripping textures out of the game’s files. Or when you are reading Xboxic, because we have proof ofcourse shown below:

What this all means is that because of America’s well-known hypocrisy towards nudity (half the population sucks on nipples frequently for the first few months of their life but then you aren’t allowed to see them for 18 years), Eidos has issued a fix to be applied to the game’s files and take the few days delay this causes for granted. US Xbox owners need not have hope of getting their forgotten intro movie after all since only the PC version is being fixed: it’s not possible for Joe Average to extract textures from the console versions. Thus whether the other versions also suffer from the delay is unknown.

Update: FiringSquad is reporting that the story would be false because Eidos denies it. Well hey let’s trust the guys, they have no reason to lie about it huh? I’d also publicly deny it if I were Eidos PR guys: that’s called “damage control”. The fact that they are meanwhile contacting me to ask how the hell I got hold of this info that they were trying to keep secret should be sufficient proof.

Apart from that I have no idea how I should’ve faked the texture. I challenge anyone getting their hand on the game to extract the textures and show it to the world for comparison.

Another update: Challenge was taken, and well… can’t do more solid proof than this.

And while I’m at it: EU-only 1.1 patch removes the nipples.

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Comment by Paul on 2006-04-06 13:05:52 | Reply

They really messed that one up, eh?

There’s something fishy about this story… The reason for the intro being left out was due to it already being in production and they decided it was too late. Do they plan on throwing out all of the replicates?

The reason for the intro being left out was, and I quote: “they’d have to restart the full validation process, and charge the usual full fee again for that process. Eidos took the simple, quick and cheap way out, since it’s not expected to affect the game or its sales in any way and they have a fixed deadline to meet.”

Seemingly Eidos’ Legal Department advised the nipple was more important than the forgotten movie, and that taking the cost of renewed validation and delay now would be cheaper than potential lawsuits. Or another plausible alternative is that they are only removing it from the PC because that is the only platform where Joe Average can easily extract it from the game’s file. PC games don’t need validation :)

Doublechecked, and Eidos is indeed only fixing the PC version because the console version files cannot be as easily extracted.

o/ Gonna have you nekkid by the end of this song. o/

Gentlemen! Let us draw arms and prepare for the Thompsonite siege!

Comment by seadog on 2006-04-06 14:17:39 | Reply

Fuck me, americans are pathetic…typical i suppose…

I’m American and I think this is funny/awesome/hot coffee part deux. Anyone capable of ripping textures out of a game already knows what one looks like.

Comment by lansalot on 2006-04-10 13:52:54 | Reply

“Anyone capable of ripping textures out of a game already knows what one looks like”

Really? I would presume quite the opposite….

Comment by Paul on 2006-04-06 14:42:19 | Reply

I can’t help but laugh at this…..

Comment by Frost on 2006-04-06 16:33:05 | Reply

Hmmm, Built in nude code…. someone will save those textures and immediatly release a nude patch …

Comment by todd on 2006-04-06 17:29:47 | Reply

Nice boob to boot.

So is the Xbox 360 version coming out next Tuesday 4/11 or not?

Comment by toyzombie on 2006-04-06 18:42:39 | Reply

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Don’t be such a chimp. The quote from above:

“US Xbox owners need not have hope of getting their forgotten intro movie after all since only the PC version is being fixed: it’s not possible for Joe Average to extract textures from the console versions.”

makes it sound like the Xbox 360 version has no reason to be delayed, since it’s NOT being fixed.

Unclear… they are for sure not modifying the console versions with the excuse of it being harder to extract the texture from a console disc, but whether they are going to do separate launches for PC and consoles now is only known in Eidos top offices.

Comment by Luke on 2006-04-06 20:48:39 | Reply

wow… american people are pathetic…

Comment by Evil Closet Monkey on 2006-04-07 15:23:07 | Reply

Almost as much as people who make close-minded, ignorant, sweeping generalizations.

w00t

Comment by charles on 2006-04-07 03:26:32 | Reply

You might want to correct the story

http://www.firingsquad.co...article.asp?searchid=9680

“US Xbox owners need not have hope of getting their forgotten intro movie after all since only the PC version is being fixed: it’s not possible for Joe Average to extract textures from the console versions.”

…nor was it possible for Joe Average to unlock the ‘hot coffee’ mini-game in the console versions of gta: san andreas, but they were still taken off the shelves and replaced with a fixed version.

Comment by Lon W on 2006-04-07 04:20:24 | Reply

My God, the horror of it all!!!

Let us hope that no child ends up having to actually view a “HUMAN BREAST NIPPLE”. Just think how traumatized the child will most certainally become.

Think of the emotional damage suffered each time the horrid image is replayed in the child’s mind. And even worse, will be the cold turkey that would settle in when if the image were no longer available for constant replay.

Why is everybodt saying Americans are pathetic. Come on, the majority of people in this country don’t care. Only advocacy groups raise a fuss. Seriously, leave politics off of a video game message board.

And some people in this country even sing along. :D

*everybody

Comment by bufalo_1973 on 2006-04-07 08:36:50 | Reply

Can it be something like “the intro must be in the game… let’s say there’s a nipple in the textures and delay the launch so we can add the intro”?

Would they have leaked the texture? Also, the intro is only missing on the Xbox version, and the whole problem there was that fixing it would take another 2 weeks of Microsoft validation process.

Comment by CHRIS on 2006-04-07 15:06:54 | Reply

Seriously though, don’t blame Americans as a people, many of us are quiet, keep-to-ourselves, leave-us-alone types who don’t care about things such as this. Free-thinkers, non-sheep people realize just how ridiculous this is as well. It’s the sheep, and the minority powers, that allow this insanity, the powerful are trying to be protectionist because freedom of thought, religion, personal freedoms, etc, are a threat to their ideal utopia, which can tolerate no other view than theirs. It’s not the people, it’s the government and small factions that perpetrate such insanity as this, most of us just want to live our lives without interference from others, and without harming others. Something like this protects no one from harm, except those who are afraid that the sheep might actually have brains.
I’m proud to be an American, but I’m ashamed of those evil people in charge, and the factions they allow to run amok. The mind-police are in charge, don’t blame the people, blame government and the big-business interests in bed with the government. Hopefully it’ll get turned over soon, but who knows…

Thanks for the comment. My comment in the article wasn’t meant to generalize 250 million Americans but to point at the American minority culture that causes actions like this indeed.

Comment by chrstphr on 2006-04-07 15:58:39 | Reply

Strangely, many characters in video games are similarly rendered. In Unreal Tournament, game conditions will sometimes cause the player to be ’squished’ between a character and a wall or object. When that happens you momentarily go ‘inside’ the character. Surprize, at least some females are ‘naked’ inside the armor. I saw this by accident and immediately wondered why the artist would bother.

Comment by GW on 2006-04-07 16:22:20 | Reply

Will someone think of the children. Exposing children to breasts in nothing less than rape. Some pedophile mothers actually let their children suck their breasts. This sick practice must be banned at once. No wonder we have so many lesbians and out-of-wedlock births.

We need to stop worrying about trivial things like terrorism, torture, nuclear weapons, and the complete collapse of the ecosystem and concentrate on removing the cause of this problem. I suggest that we surgically remove all breasts in the United States. That way they can cause no more harm. Somebody, please think about the children!

Comment by Tazly on 2006-04-08 11:31:15 | Reply

Good one. ;o) It would also prevent breast cancer, and reduce the number of rape crimes.
Just leave my gf’s big boobs for me to handle, hehe.

Comment by Kingofmages on 2006-04-08 16:15:13 | Reply

Will someone think of the children. Exposing children to breasts in nothing less than rape. Some pedophile mothers actually let their children suck their breasts. This sick practice must be banned at once. No wonder we have so many lesbians and out-of-wedlock births.

We need to stop worrying about trivial things like terrorism, torture, nuclear weapons, and the complete collapse of the ecosystem and concentrate on removing the cause of this problem. I suggest that we surgically remove all breasts in the United States. That way they can cause no more harm. Somebody, please think about the children!

Wow your ideas on this kind of stuff is so amazingly wrong I cant help but laugh and frown at the same time.

Comment by Donkeyboy on 2006-04-08 17:32:56 | Reply

I think your sarcasm detector is broken..

It took one day for the U.S. Senate to start an investigation into Janet Jackson’s breast, and over a year to announce an investigation into 9/11. Unbelivable.

Also, props to the graphic designers — that’s a beautifully rendered breast. (Evil, foul, perverted thing that Americans think it is.)

Comment by reader on 2006-04-07 17:15:39 | Reply

I does not really matter which part is shown. Different cultures consider different things offensive. In some repressed societies it’s an etire body in america it’s the part in question. When people are brought up thinking that this is something “indecent” they get hung up on it. Partially that’s probably the reason that a programmer would make an extra effort to create an anatomically correct texture. And I would agree - someone who can remove outer textures already knows what it looks like so no point in being offended. It’s more about money and trying to get attention ‘fighting against indecency’ or it’s just a minifestation of traumas received during growing up. these people are more likely to react strongly on things others would dismiss as a joke. and by the way - one will not be ‘de-texturing’ game characters without a purpose .

Comment by MTG on 2006-04-07 19:51:09 | Reply

The delay is only an effort to reduce the risk for litigation or boycott against the company, and as noted above, is the consequence of a vociferous conservative religious group. As an American, I also think that it is wrong to criticize Americans as a group for this. But we can laugh together about it!

[…] It looks like the PC version of the much anticipated Tomb Raider: Legends is being pushed back because someone found some textures which clearly shows a nude breast. Xboxic evidently blew this one wide open (Vague sexual pun very much intended) as you can read all the horny little details here… with PICs! […]

I’m apologise for that statement in my post — I broke my own rule. I love, admire, and am related to many Americans, it’s just the Republican Administration and the hypocritical Christian Supremacists I dislike. Thanks for the criticism, MTG, I deserved it.

Comment by SASA on 2006-04-07 20:36:34 | Reply

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EBGames said today that the street date for the Xbox 360 version of Tomb Raider is now 4/25/2006 (a two-week slip).

I don’t think it’s that weird that they would texture the actual breast. It looks like they probably were working off photographs, and it’s not like they would specifically cut out parts — even if they’re going to be adding clothes sometime in the future, since they don’t know what parts of skin will be showing. Might as well be complete, in case. They would have had to do extra work to remove nipples.

But would it suddenly be ok and fine if they just took a blur tool to them? And if that is the case, then what the heck? You can see more revealing stuff in a health textbook in middle school when you’re 14.

I would actually rather this turn out to be some kind of joke/hoax, because it just seems too ridiculous to imagine actual human beings initiating that ‘patch’.

Comment by guy on 2006-04-08 08:41:51 | Reply

Yopu people are some ignorant fucks. Yeah bash America only the richest most powerful country on Earth. Maybe we got that way for some reasons including our “repression”.

Fuck off and stop telling us how til run our country you pieces of shit. Or maybe go riot some more in France or whatever the fuck you socialist pigs do.

Comment by Bump Map on 2006-04-08 10:11:17 | Reply

Oh my God! Does that mean that Lara has no nipples under her clothes - and what about her labia and vagina - have they been cruelly removed in the interests of satisfying the prurient? But that means that our lovely Lara won’t be able to enjoy a fulfilling sex life or even take a wee (let’s not consider the consequences of her anal sphincter not being rendered). If she is just a genital free Barbie doll under those clothes, I for one am going to have to find someone else to fantasise over - still on the bright side it may well save my eyesight…

Guy; I can imagine you writing this post while singing Amazing Grace while pledging allegiance to the (confederate) flag. Keep it up ma’ boy!

Comment by Bump Map on 2006-04-08 11:24:52 | Reply

Yep; it’s guys like guy that made America what it is today - thanks guy, the world is grateful to you.

Comment by Infidel on 2006-04-08 21:30:33 | Reply

Thank you for your comment. People like you made the US great.

Yeah, right.

And thank you for making the rest of us Americans look terrible.

Comment by ahac on 2006-04-08 12:27:24 | Reply

>> Fuck off and stop telling us how til run our country you pieces of shit.

You are telling the whole world how to run their countries. You even bomb them if they don’t listen.
Maybe we should bomb the US now, replace your stupid government and allow breasts in games and movies…

[…] Laut einem Bericht auf Xboxic.com haben findige User die Texturen in Tomb Raider: Legend gründlich durchsucht und sind dabei auf nackte Brüste gestoßen. […] Zu sehen ist davon im fertigen Spiel nichts: In einem Kapitel tanzen in Tokio Frauen im Hintergrund. Die sind zwar angezogen, aber anscheinend haben die Animatoren erst mal Modelle ohne Klamotten gebastelt, um hinterher Kleidertexturen darüber zu legen. […]

[…] In de verenigde staten zijnde releases van Tomb Raider legend uitgestelt. het spel dat geplant staat om op 11 april op de markt te verschijnen, bevat in de huidige versie een texture van een vrouwenborst met tepel. De afbeelding kom in de gerenderde variant nergens in het spel voor, maar kan met enige moeite uit de data gedestilleerd worden door de individuele textures vrij te maken. De afbeelding zou door de mensen van Eidos zijn gemaakt van voor een scene van Tokyo, waar op de achtergrond enkele vrouwen aan het dansen zijn. de danseressen dragen kleding maar zijn opgebouwt vanuit een naakt lichaam met passende kledings stukken. Hiermee komt eidos voor een patch die deze texture gaat maskeren. Het gevolg hiervan zou een vertraging van enkele dagen zijn tot dat je hem in Amerika kan kopen.Na publicatie van het bericht op FiringSquad heeft de pr-afdeling van Eidos direct laten weten dat de afbeelding niet in de VS-versie van het spel voorkomt en dat de publicatie van Tomb Raider: Legend ook geen vertraging zal oplopen. Niettemin meldt Xboxic dat Eidos ook met deze website contact heeft opgenomen, alleen dan met de vraag hoe deze informatie aan het licht is gekomen. […]

Comment by Dreakon on 2006-04-08 22:40:04 | Reply

You bash us Americans like we’re the ones behind all this shit. As it’s been said, most of us are quiet, keep-to-ourselves kind of people, much like the majority of you. If you wanna sit there and generalize a whole country to make yourself feel better, feel free but I’m afraid your worse then me.

As for the topic, any kind of censorship is stupid, but I’m just one person. What can I do? Lol.

Comment by Chris on 2006-04-08 23:01:02 | Reply

I agree with Dreakon. I myself like nipples. Everyone says all Americans are stupid and uncultured and that we’re ignorant to other countries. At the same time, these same people are putting one generalization on 280 million people.

ummmmm…..there was nudity in god of war, who cares about tomb raider

Comment by Chris on 2006-04-09 03:49:39 | Reply

The rating on the front of it. That’s what.

Comment by Colcob on 2006-04-09 14:31:45 | Reply

Personally, If I went to the trouble of extracting and viewing that texture, I’d be far more disturbed by the clearly visible SEVERED LIMBS!!

Comment by Nero on 2006-04-09 17:19:28 | Reply

Maybe because real naked women Have breasts complete with nipples?

[…] Speaking to FiringSquad, Eidos PR has confirmed that there are no plans to delay the release of Tomb Raider: Legends in the US while further investigating from Xboxic staff confirm the nude textures are present in the European PC version unless one installs the latest patch from Eidos which removes the naughty bits. Sounds like Eidos is trying to avoid being responsible for the next Hot Coffee. [link] […]

[…] Na serveru xboxic.com se objevili textury ze hry Tomb Raider Tomb Raider: Legend na, kterých jsou vyobrazená prsa s bradavkami. Bohužel nepatří samotné Láře, nýbrž několika tanečnicím , které se objevují v Tokiu. Nejlepší na tom všem je, že bradavky ve hře nemáte možnost vůbec vidět. To si jen tvůrci dokonale vyhráli s modely těl tanečnic. Na tato těla ovšem měli přijít ještě textury oblečení. Díky hodnocení ESRB, které musí mít v americe každá hra se nejspíše pozdrží její oficiální release. Hra by byla totiž ohodnocena jiným písmenem než je T (vhodné pro všechny) a to by firmě EIDOS samozřejmě snížilo zisky. Ještě jedna perlička. Vlastníci Xboxové verze jsou ochuzeni o intro z této hry a to jen kvuli tomu, že jej tvůrci zapoměli přidat do výsledné kompilace, která se odesílá do Microsoftu ke schválení. Aby nedošlo ke zdržení vydání, nechal to EIDOS být. […]

[…] What is it with gamers and boobs? […]

Comment by Lecter on 2006-04-10 09:57:44 | Reply

No way! You poor prude American…

Comment by Rudo on 2006-04-10 12:33:57 | Reply

It is true, let’s not generalize… only half of the american people are retarded. Cfr election results.

Comment by red2 on 2006-04-10 14:37:08 | Reply

man i want photos!!

by the way to all brain powered americans:
i understand your anger, i’m italian and i can’t go anywhere in the world without someone sayin “you live in berlusconi’s banana republic” but luckily this crap ends today!!! :DDD

Comment by claudio on 2006-04-10 16:43:55 | Reply

Viva Italia! Viva la nipple!

Comment by Raist3d on 2006-04-11 03:39:00 | Reply

Guys, didn’t I made a post asking if Europe wouldn’t have a problem if it was male frontal nudity with a penis? I know in the US that would be quite a scandal but I want to know what Europeans think, because if you are going to tell me you would get offended by that one, then what’s the point of cirtizicing so much on the female one….

I posted this- it was a longer more well though out post.. did someone ban it?

- Raist

Comment by Ashmo on 2006-04-11 08:45:36 | Reply

Full frontal nudity is okay in most of Europe as long as it’s not explicit. Errect genitalia are a no-no and so is anything explicitly sexual. But nudity isn’t sexual in itself, so that’s absolutely okay.

Our elementary school biology books have photos with full frontal nudity as far as I can remember — there’s nothing grotesque about that. It’s not something I’d expect from a children’s programme, but there’s no reason to get excited about it.

Besides, the really fun part of this story is that most people who know how to rip textures also know how to add or replace them, so it’s pretty pointless to remove them if they’ve been released already — if anyone wants to use them for a nude patch, it’s already to late anyway. And if the article is right, those evil nipples don’t show up anywhere in the game yet anyway.

I’m eagerly waiting for an article about some game being released with a male FFN texture embedded deeply in the source out of spite. Running With Scissors up to anything lately?

You posted that at other article, where I also replied to it :)

We never remove comments unless they’re spam or otherwise completely useless. Flamebaits and trolls are edited out, not deleted.

Comment by Raist3d on 2006-04-11 11:07:49 | Reply

As far as I know Running with Scissors is no more. If find your comments interesting. When you say as long as it’s not explicit, just so I know - what explicit means… so a full front nude of a penis I suppose would be ok as long as it’s not erect.. is this correct?

A non-erect penis is fine afaik in the Netherlands as long as it’s not used in an erotic context. Don’t expect documentaries about Amazon natives running around nude to be censored, no matter the time of day.

Comment by USA land of the free on 2006-04-13 03:31:08 | Reply

To all those posters saying the government is
to blame - you live in a democracy buddy. (greatest one in the world innit ?)Maybe some more of you should bother to turn out and vote.
It sickens me that the portrayal of violence is so accepted in your country, but nudity or
sex is not. Very sad indeed.

Comment by The*Pesticide on 2006-12-05 01:49:59 | Reply

It sickens me that the portrayal of violence is so accepted in your country, but nudity or
sex is not. Very sad indeed.

Sad but true, if you have seen men disemboweled, people decapitated and all the other juicy visuals that don’t just lace movies today but take up as a majority in film today, which i saw as a boy you certainly shouldn’t be uncomfortable with sex, sexuality. I’m surpised that there wasn’t more controversy over SHADOW OF ROME which such gore as i have yet to see in many games, why make such a fuss over boobs O_O. Death is bad, sex is not, sex is healthly, aids are bad, condoms are good, in many other cultures breasts are just a way to nurture the baby and supplement its growth, and heck America’s sexually repressed teens would be viable parents in other countries, third world countries but hey why make such a big deal about boobs when babies get most of the action ;)

-Pesticide

Comment by a fine line between irony and coincidence.. on 2006-04-15 23:08:49 | Reply

i personally like the american people, iv been to miami (wow..beaches with rows upon rows of breasts..*drool*..i wonder if the US government will ban THAT soon? those poor children..) and NY-NY , and got the best reception from the locals i could have hoped for. they were very pleasant, and treated us like long lost cousins from across the pond (finding the british accent somewhat..fascinating..but dammit its ARSE!) so i havnt a bad word to say about them. but as for that breast and those misplaced limbs, oh im distressed, unless it belongs to miss croft..in which case…SAVE PICTURE AS! ;)

Comment by mmm on 2006-04-16 03:00:02 | Reply

This sounds like a HUGE HOAX to me. Get real.

Similar to the “Coffee” issue in GTA. But it sounds like this might not be real, though. Could be a publicity stunt.

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Comment by maddogaus on 2007-08-30 06:21:39 | Reply

fuck who gives a shit its just a bloody tit , just enjoy the fucking game.

I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!

We Americans do have a strict moral code concerning women’s breasts. Clothed, they’re delicious; naked, they’re vulgar and indecent. In fact, I would propose a movement to ban breast feeding, especially for newborn boys. We don’t know what infant boys perceive and retain in their minds. How do we know this isn’t causing a serious trauma that will affect his mental stability the rest of his life? It’s his momma’s naked brasts, for crying out loud!!!!!

naked women and men is probably the most natural in the world

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